Loving 2022 prius prime, but expected higher mpg

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  1. Emmy2022

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    Hi all! I just bought my first ever prius - a 2022 Prius Prime XLE. I upgraded from a base model honda fit, so I’m loving my new car. I’m getting about 30miles of EV which is better than expected, BUT I was expecting higher mpg when in HV mode.

    I live in Austin TX, but I bought the car in my home town 500 miles away. On my way home - all highway going up to 85mph - I averaged 45 mpg. I understand that high speeds will hurt the fuel economy, but I’m sometimes getting about 45mpg on shorter (5-10 mile), slower (<55mph), no AC trips around town as well.

    I’m seeing high mpg trips too - around 65mpg - especially in slow moving highway traffic and with careful driving. I was expecting to be able to reliably get 50-55mpg without really trying (that is, driving like I normally do - not aggressively by any means, but keeping with traffic). I get that to max out the fuel economy I’ll need to drive more carefully and conservatively, but I didn’t think I’d need to change my driving to reach that 50-55mpg range.

    For my current tank of gas, I’m averaging 63mpg but that includes charging the car several times.

    Thoughts? Is it normal to see <50mpg if not driving conservatively? My next step is to go all HV for a tank of gas and calculate the fuel economy on my own. So far all the stats are according to the car.
     
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    As normal as normal is these days at 85 and keeping up with traffic.
     
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    If you're scoring 45mpg while spending significant time at 85mph, you're kicking butt.
     
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    Yes, this would be normal MPG for HV operation per your statement. Plus, you will get lower MPG in colder weather since the ICE (gasoline) is used for heating the cabin. Your MPG will increase in warmer temps and with conservative driving.
     
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    Thanks for the input everyone! That makes me feel so much better.

    If this is normal, I’m happy with it. Like I said, I’m really enjoying the car - it’s much more fuel efficient and stylish than my last car and that’s what I wanted.

    My last car started having a lot of problems out of blue, and I spent the last few months of driving it just waiting for the other shoe to drop. I think that made me hyper vigilant of any issues with the new car.

    Anyways - thanks again! Happy driving, y’all!
     
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    try some conservative longer trips just to be sure there's nothing wrong. the epa tests are fairly conservative
     
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    You are not going to get good fuel economy at 85 mph obviously, as the air drag increases with the square of the speed.

    You should get around the EPA highway value at 65 mph.

    You should get around 70 mpg at 55 mph.

    Try setting the A/C at 68 ℉ in the winter and at 78 ℉ in the summer. That will vastly improve the fuel economy.
     
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    A higher tire pressure also helps. I use about 41/40 psi front/rear.
     
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    If you are doing 500miles at 85mph, 45mpg is very good. Anything faster than 72mph, there is no EV, unless you are in a very long downhill.

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    Try a bottle of chevron fuel cleaner.
     
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    I bought my 22 Prime last March, and have taken three 2600 mile R/T highway trips so far. In the warmer months I got 49 MPG (gas only) running 75-80 avg (GPS - the speedo is 2% high and inflates miles and MPG). Last trip in cold weather was around 44 MPG, but I was going a bit faster most of the way. My old '13 Prius only got about 38 MPG under best conditions. Oh, that last trip was with winter tires, too.
     
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    Calculating your mpg is the best way to see your accurate mpg; Toyota has a propensity to exaggerate the dash displayed mpg (by a reliable ~7% on 3rd gen). It's good to track your tanks, see what helps/hinders mpg. Some tactics that will help:

    1. Keep the speed down; be the slow-and-steady right laner.
    2. Maintain a good following distance in traffic. This often allows you to avoid braking in minor slowdowns, which robs your momentum.
    3. Plan your trips, consolidate errands. Avoid short, impulse drives, especially if something's walking distance.
    4. Minimize AC use.
    5. NEVER sit parked with the car on. If you have to wait in the car, just shut it off, crack the windows.

    Set your display up to show the Hybrid System Indicator (HSI). This is 3rd gen, and a little simplistic, but explains the basics:

     
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    In comparison testing. Any PHV or even HEV that can score 48 MPG or better will be equal to an all electric vehicle. If driven the same and at the same speeds/acceleration. This is in terms of charging costs or for an HEV refueling costs.

    So if you drive a bit normal 65 MPH to 70MPH, you will be equal or less than the cost of an EV.

    Heck the standard Prius is often better performing than the PHEV if driven at speed. I regularly obtained 70 MPG while doing 70 MPH in the standard Prius. But I get worse in the Prime.

    This is likely because the Prine is heavier by about 300 lbs.
     
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    Really disappointed that I can’t hit 1000! :whistle::D
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