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Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by bwilson4web, Jun 2, 2010.

  1. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    1 29 295 Camry
    2 26 953 Corolla
    3 14 248 Prius
    4 13 102 RAV4
    Toyota Retail Sales, May, 2010, enhanced.

    Bob Wilson
     
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  2. FL_Prius_Driver

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    If you can show Tesla's numbers, that would be greatly appreciated.
     
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    1,913 Insight IIs were sold in May. Prius is outselling 7.5 to 1 ratio.
     
  4. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Dashboard is up:
    May 2010 Dashboard: Hybrid Car Sales Rebound | Hybrid Cars

    Column 1 Column 2 Column 3 Column 4 Column 5 Column 6 Column 7 Column 8
    0 Model Units vs. last month vs. May 2009 CYTD vs. CYTD 2009
    1 Toyota Prius 14 248 13.5% 41.2% 55 041 28.7%
    2 Ford Fusion 2 486 64.0% 32.4% 7 998 138.6%
    3 Honda Insight 1 913 1.8% -31.2 8 766 61.0%
    4 Toyota Camry 1 455 -12.1% -50.5% 6 537 -40.1%
    5 Lexus HS 250h 1 360 26.4% n/a 5 889 n/a
    6 Lexus RX450h 1 358 10.2% 245.5% 5 741 8.9%
    7 Ford Escape 1 302 24.2% -23.5% 4 861 -17.4%
    8 Altima 1 167 253.6% 283.3% 3 569 42.3%
    Everyone else was less than 1,000 units. USA sales.

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    I assume that's for US, but correct me if wrong.

    Very impressive - ahead of Rav4, good.

    I pulled up next to a Tesla Roadster in Palo Alto -

    me - " What's it like doing 0 - 60 in 3 1/2 sec? "

    A . - "It's more like 3.8 or 3.9"

    me - Not bad. :eek:
     
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    Prius is only getting ready for takeoff. These numbers with all that's going on, impressive.

    Gen3 Pri is going to be Everywhere.

    I looked at many under $25k starting small to small-midsize 4 door, 5 seater hatchbacks for well over a month in March/April.

    Prius is the best IMO, not just on gas mileage, but as a daily driver car.
     
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    I don't know that Tesla releases monthly sales figures like most major automakers.

    From Amendment No. 1 to Registration Statement on Form S-1 It says "As of December 31, 2009 we had sold 937 Tesla Roadsters to customers in 18 countries."

    [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Roadster[/ame] says the first Roadster was delivered in Feb 2008 to Musk. http://www.teslamotors.com/media/press_room.php?id=841 says regular production began March 17, 2008.

    Usually, one of the easiest ways of finding US sales for major automakers is to search for [manufacturer] reports [month] [year] sales.
     
  8. austingreen

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    Glad things are growing. It's a little sad that hybrids are still only at 2.6%. Interesting that Ford is so many fussions compared to camry's, altimas, etc. I hope when they get the hybrid focus it helps grow the market. On the flag ship ultra lux boats Mercedes S400, which took the tack of improving fe is killing the Lexus LS 600 hybrid (most expensive hybrid) and BMW activehybrid 7 (fastest hybrid).


    I have a spot where I have to pull over 3 lanes of the access road after exiting the freeway to make a right turn. Tuesday a tesla came screeming toward my back bumper as I moved over. Car looked great coming up. Didn't realize it was a tesla until he was passed. First one I saw in Austin so distribution has improved.
     
  9. john1701a

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    Not really. Monthly variances usually don't portray the big picture accurately. In fact, they are often quite misleading.

    Look at the CYTD numbers instead.
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    It looks US people are still conservative to buy hybrid vehicles.
    Following is Japanese number in May 2010.
    The total number of top 4 hybrids is 35,007 which is 16.9% of all passenger cars (207,202) sold in Japan.

    Column 1 Column 2 Column 3 Column 4
    0 Model Units vs. May 2009
    1 Toyota Prius 27 208 149.3%
    2 Honda Insight 3 156 -61.4%
    3 Honda CR-Z 2 573 n/a
    4 Toyota SAI 2 070 n/a
    source

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    2k1Toaster Brand New Prius Batteries

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    Glad to see some country doing the right thing
     
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    It is worse than the raw numbers when you look at the population numbers:

    Column 1 Column 2 Column 3 Column 4 Column 5
    0 Country Prius Sales Population per million people
    1 Japan 27 208 127 m 214 / m
    2 USA 14 248 304 m 46.9 / m
    Combining Dashboard and Japanese Dealer Association numbers. Population numbers from 2008.

    Japan is running over four times the rate of hybrid adoption in new buyers. When we start looking at the average age of the USA fleet, ~10 years, versus the Japanese, a younger fleet, they are making a substantial change in vehicles. We know that fuel efficiency is the key to dealing with oil shortages and at these rates of hybrid adoption, I would expect to see Japanese oil consumption showing a leveling off.

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    You mean like THIS statistic? Over-all Toyota May sales, combined with hybrids:

    Tokyo

    So the good new is, TONs more folks are buying hybrids, than pure gas burners.
    ;)

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    We need to look at hybrid percentage in the US passenger car. There isn't hybrid truck available.
     
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    Silvarado hybrid comes to mind, but you have hit on part of the problem, hybrids are not available in many vehicles that the public would like to buy. Does anyone know the percentage of hybrid midsize hatchbacks and sedans? The public does have many good hybrid choices in this segment.
     
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    2k1Toaster Brand New Prius Batteries

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    The truck itself is rather useless for 95% (nice person-pulled-statistic) of those that buy it. And even then probably dont need it.

    You dont see many 3/4ton trucks belonging to regular people driving around the roads in the EU, yet somehow they manage to pull campers/caravans with their estate cars, build construction projects, and so on.

    Point being, they should skip the hyrbid truck, and focus on smaller cars anyways. If you need something bigger, then buy an SUV which do come in hybrids. Hopefully we will get some good diesel engines over here too for those that dont want hyrbids or those that do extreme highway driving.
     
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    2k1Toaster Brand New Prius Batteries

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    Also, for real truckers that haul things on 18wheels+, there is a huge problem with the drag on their vehicles. It is a box, so it probably has a coefficient of like 0.9, who knows.

    But I watched an episode of future cars a while back and Luigi Colani (I think that is his name) has been designing trucks to be more efficient. If one of the big companies could start mass producing them it would save a ton of fuel.

    The first two pictures are 30% more efficient than a standard trailer. The last one is 50% more efficent.

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    Um, I don't think I'd look good in white shoes . . . . . . maybe after I move to seizure world, and hit my 85th birthday.

    ;)

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    Looks like the Fusion Hybrid is helping to kill the Camry Hybrid in sales.

    I also have to wonder how many people are buying the Prius instead of the TCH with the 2010 model as the introduction of the FFH isn't enough to offset the decline in TCH sales.
     
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    Glad to see the Prius numbers are up.