Featured Mazda brings back the diesel war

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    Back in the 2001-2010 era, VW diesel advocates would frequently come here to 'pick a fight' over their diesels versus our Prius. Then VW's "music" software turned out to be an emission fraud and nearly 500,000 were recalled and sent to large scrap heaps. Well Mazda wants the restart the war of words:


    Engineering details missing from this sales (propaganda) piece:
    • No regenerative braking - diesels stop by heating brake pads and disks whereas hybrids and EVs stuff that energy back into the battery. That is why they excel in City traffic, +95% of all miles.
    • 100 times more moving and wearing out parts - from the engine to the tires, the diesel engine and required transmission have two orders of magnitude more moving parts that only frequent oil changes prevent from melting down.
    • Toxic emissions - diesels produce huge amounts of SMOG and lung irritating NOx. Highly reactive, these require a catalytic converter that often requires DEF (Diesel Emissions Fluid) refills to keep them from poisoning us.
    • Coal rolling - a favorite diesel "you die hard" stunt, huge clouds of toxic, black smoke that turns everyone off while they snicker down the road.
    Now the 6 cylinder engine is good because it brings effectively 3-phase power output instead of the built-in pulses and noise of fewer cylinders. Having 6 or more cylinders works for any piston engine by making sure at least one cylinder is in the power stroke all the time. Smoothness, yes, but that does not address: no regenerative braking; 100 times more moving parts; complex toxic emissions, and; diesel abuse.

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    Are they planning one for the us?
     
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    #3 hill, Jan 31, 2026 at 2:55 PM
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    Might depend on what you’re testing?
     
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    NOx has typically been the biggie - which is what gassers always had a big advantage - being much lower than diesel. until exhaust fluid tech got dialed in.
    And w/ bio fuel - diesel becomes a bigger plus than what it'd be. Although w/ sub zero temps when we're up north - it can more easily turn to wax - so we have to run diesel #1 - at least in part - to keep it liquified.
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    but as far as NOx goes, our EPA here in the USA has set identical emission standards (80 mg/km) for gas & diesel - whereas the EU requires even more stringent NOx standards, ironically, after dieselgate.

    https://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/ATAG/2017/595363/IPOL_ATA(2017)595363_EN.pdf

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    In 2012, when I could no longer find replacement cylinder heads for my beloved '92 Subaru Loyale that I put 200K miles on I was trying to decide between VW to run on bio Diesel or a Prius... Not only did finding this website help me decide, but it was so dang hard to find people willing to sell their VW Diesel before the scandal was known.

    And then before I knew it I realized that the Pacific Northwest roads that were once covered in Subarus quickly were upstaged by Prius being everywhere. The anonymity that comes from driving the most common car on the road has always been part of my security culture. :)
     
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    Diesel has a place if done well. But Mazda failed to address the critical, engineering fixes. Fecal engineering always pisses me off!

    Bob Wilson