Michael Vick to plead guilty....

I was actually willing to reserve judgment on him until the court case went through. Now ESPN just announced he is going to plead guilty on Monday in a plea hearing.

Anyone who is intentionally cruel to an animal is despicable.

Arg.... I hope he gets 25 years.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Stev0 @ Aug 20 2007, 03:13 PM) [snapback]499270[/snapback]</div>

Hahaha, that is comical.

Even though I despise animal cruelty, I don't wish any physical harm on anyone.

That being said, I wouldn't be angry if that happened

The race card will always be a factor in the minds of the narrow minded. It's almost like us saying that all Prius owner's are incapable of DUI because we all drive the same car. Pretty sad, isn't it?

Black, white, red or green, if you are accused of something and guilty for it, you should be punished despite your color.

Yeah, I'm pretty certain he'll never play professional football again. Although, maybe the CFL or Arena league might want him for publicity purposes. After all, they had Ricky Williams playing for the same reasons.

The NFL has some type of policy, though I'll let one of the resident NFL gurus look that one up, that states any type of behavior deemed inappropriate by the NFL, can and will be punished accordingly. Think Pac Man Jones.... Also the NFL had stated they were going to suspend Vick for four games prior to this statement of Vick's agent.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(efusco @ Aug 20 2007, 03:27 PM) [snapback]499286[/snapback]</div>

Right. I think the NFL has noticed some of the mistakes the NBA has made in the past, and as such is trying to prevent the same stigma from being associated with them.

I doubt anyone will want to pick up Vick with this type of case associated with him, especially after pleading guilty. Maybe if he were convicted in a close trial after pleading no-guilty.... but when you admit guilt in a case like this, you are basically admitting that you are a heartless person. If it was theft or a DUI it would be a different story. They would have a minor blip on their record and go right back to playing.

But there are heartless owners who equate a football team to a sweatshop and wouldn't blink an eye if it came to hiring a convicted felon if it meant they could win a few more games.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(burritos @ Aug 20 2007, 03:34 PM) [snapback]499296[/snapback]</div>

I'm not going to open up that can....

While I personally do not agree with hunting, I am not going to say other people shouldn't do it.

As for what Vick did and comparisons to hunting, there are non. Vick killed a dog with his bare hands on numerous occasions [or so it is reported]. If you could kill a deer with your bare hands in a fist fight, I'd say you get to keep the meat. But a dog is a different story. It's not 900lbs with antlers. It's a moderately defenseless animal in comparison to a deer or a grizzly bear.

In Surry County Virginia some of the counts Vick is being convicted of face up to 40 years in prison, however the Feds have stepped in and he will likely face much less time.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Swanny1172 @ Aug 20 2007, 03:43 PM) [snapback]499304[/snapback]</div>

True, not convicted because he's not man enough to face a jury. But I digress....

And yes, I'm hearing mixed things here in VA.... some are saying he will face charges, are are saying he won't.... who knows until it's all played out.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Washington1788 @ Aug 20 2007, 03:47 PM) [snapback]499309[/snapback]</div>

I think to an extent, you are right. Do your time and you are back on even ground with everyone else. However, given the nature of the crime, I am not so sure that will happen. For me personally I know it won't.

Let's look at OJ. He never recovered and he was found innocent. :blink:

These celebrities get all sorts of preferential treatment. He'll get his dreamteam of lawyers to get some special deal and they'll get his sentence reduced to 18 months in a leather padded cell with a big screen TV and the NFL network with Madden '08 on an Xbox 360.

 

Just saw this on the PETA website....

PETA is again calling on the NFL to add cruelty to animals—in all its forms—to its personal conduct policy. This case has clearly shown that NFL fans are just as outraged by cruelty to animals as they are by any of the other antisocial behaviors outlined in the policy.

As these recent examples show, the high incidence of animal abuse cases in the NFL indicates a disturbing trend that needs to be addressed immediately:

* Earlier this year, Vick's teammate Jonathan Babineaux was accused of inflicting blunt force trauma on his girlfriend's dog, Kilo, following an argument. Kilo died after reaching the emergency vet clinic.
* In 2004, NFL running back LeShon Johnson was found guilty for his involvement in a massive dogfighting ring.
* In 2001, former Eagles running back Thomas Hamner was twice convicted of beating his dog and has been convicted of animal cruelty.