Moveon.org's NY Times ad. . .

I think the only way your vote would sway the poll would be to increase the number of "off base" responses.

While I agree with the general point MoveOn is trying to make, I don't agree with the methods. By calling him "Betray Us", I think they're impugning the character of a man who has served his country honorably. As it stands, rather than focusing on the inconsistencies they see in the report, the ad focuses more on the messenger.

They could have accomplished the same thing without going after General Petraeus himself.

 

I think the only way your vote would sway the poll would be to increase the number of "off base" responses.

While I agree with the general point MoveOn is trying to make, I don't agree with the methods. By calling him "Betray Us", I think they're impugning the character of a man who has served his country honorably. As it stands, rather than focusing on the inconsistencies they see in the report, the ad focuses more on the messenger.

They could have accomplished the same thing without going after General Petraeus himself.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Wildkow @ Sep 12 2007, 12:46 AM) [snapback]511095[/snapback]</div>

I find the ad disgusting and bordering on treasonous. Its debasing. It lowers the bar to the lowest rung possible. The fact that there are those who have not denounced it is terrible. the fact that the ny times printed it for a fraction of the price it usually charges for full page ads is as disgusting - not surprising given their treasonous acts of the recent past. I am getting tired of the left going further and further left - i am beginning to believe that they would love to see America hit again and before President Bush leaves office.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Wildkow @ Sep 12 2007, 12:46 AM) [snapback]511095[/snapback]</div>

I find the ad disgusting and bordering on treasonous. Its debasing. It lowers the bar to the lowest rung possible. The fact that there are those who have not denounced it is terrible. the fact that the ny times printed it for a fraction of the price it usually charges for full page ads is as disgusting - not surprising given their treasonous acts of the recent past. I am getting tired of the left going further and further left - i am beginning to believe that they would love to see America hit again and before President Bush leaves office.

 

Senator Warner: . . . Does that (the Iraq imbroglio) make America safer?

General Patreus: Sir, I don't know. . .




Impeach "you know who".

http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/2007...rd_somethi.html

 

Senator Warner: . . . Does that (the Iraq imbroglio) make America safer?

General Patreus: Sir, I don't know. . .




Impeach "you know who".

http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/2007...rd_somethi.html

 

"i am beginning to believe that they would love to see America hit again and before President Bush leaves office."

Way out of line, B. The only person I've ever heard speak of a wish for this was a Republican. As that politician pointed out, another strike before the election would benefit Republicans, NOT democrats.
You need not knock off this BS that democrats are "America haters". It's pure hogwash and makes you sound like a lunatic.

I have not seen the ad, or care to, and have no comment on it.

 

"i am beginning to believe that they would love to see America hit again and before President Bush leaves office."

Way out of line, B. The only person I've ever heard speak of a wish for this was a Republican. As that politician pointed out, another strike before the election would benefit Republicans, NOT democrats.
You need not knock off this BS that democrats are "America haters". It's pure hogwash and makes you sound like a lunatic.

I have not seen the ad, or care to, and have no comment on it.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dbermanmd @ Sep 12 2007, 07:20 AM) [snapback]511171[/snapback]</div>

Sorry Berman, i didn't realize that speaking out against the administration was treason... Why don't we just finish what Bush started and erode all of our personal freedoms?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dbermanmd @ Sep 12 2007, 07:20 AM) [snapback]511171[/snapback]</div>

Sorry Berman, i didn't realize that speaking out against the administration was treason... Why don't we just finish what Bush started and erode all of our personal freedoms?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dbermanmd @ Sep 12 2007, 05:20 AM) [snapback]511171[/snapback]</div>

LOL

I think you are truely the least patriotic out of this bunch we call PC. A true patriot will speak out against ALL oppressors to our country.

"Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the President or any other public official save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country."

-Theodore Roosevelt

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dbermanmd @ Sep 12 2007, 05:20 AM) [snapback]511171[/snapback]</div>

LOL

I think you are truely the least patriotic out of this bunch we call PC. A true patriot will speak out against ALL oppressors to our country.

"Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the President or any other public official save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country."

-Theodore Roosevelt

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Wildkow @ Sep 11 2007, 11:46 PM) [snapback]511095[/snapback]</div>

Another perspective....

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial...ccarthy_moment/

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Wildkow @ Sep 11 2007, 11:46 PM) [snapback]511095[/snapback]</div>

Another perspective....

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial...ccarthy_moment/