Need help from Prius v owner in San Diego area

Discussion in 'Prius v Main Forum' started by waldo22, Jun 17, 2013.

  1. waldo22

    waldo22 New Member

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    I purchased a 10kW plug-in modification from Plug-in-Supply, and it doesn't work with my 2012 Prius v.

    Toyota has apparently changed something in the software of the 'v' that prevents the Plug-in-Supply system from putting the car into EV mode.

    This same change has been made in the newer Highlander hybrids, so they are no longer selling their kits for the Highlander.

    I would like to ask some generous soul in the San Diego area, or within reasonable driving distance, to "donate" some time with their Prius v so that the software engineer can figure out what needs to be updated to make this work with my car (and possibly with the Highlanders as well).

    You'll be a part of something very cool; helping me to use virtually no gas for my daily driving!

    No modifications to your car will be made, only listening to the car's diagnostic port and trying to tell it to go into EV mode. It may be necessary to install battery packs in the trunk in order to test it, but they would only need to be hooked-up, not bolted in.

    If you'd be willing to help with this, I would be eternally grateful.

    I should add that I am on the East Coast; it's the developer that's in the San Diego area.

    Anyone want to help out?

    Thanks!

    -Wes
     
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  2. woppa

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    Wish I could help but I am on the east coast also. I never even knew about the plug in converter, pretty cool...about how many miles could the 10kw go on a charge?

    Edit- I just read the FAQ...50 miles on a 10kw charge...sweet.
     
  3. waldo22

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    Yeah, it's really amazing.

    I expect the Prius v to not get quite as many miles due to the higher final drive ratio, heavier weight, and larger frontal surface area and coefficient of drag.

    Hopefully I can make it work for my car.

    -Wes
     
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    Please keep us updated on everything. Im very interested. Why did you go with this particular kit? It appears there are less costly options, not sure if the enginer kit allows speeds past 43mph though.
     
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    Was just chatting about this in another thread...would love to but on the East Coast. Good luck with that and do post your progress!
     
  6. syscon

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    They advertized their kit works with Prius Gen 2, Prius Gen 3, Prius V
    and now they keep telling you Toyota change something on Prius V? Something doesn't add up.
    It seems to me they have never done any installation on Prius V.

    Ps. Change subject to something like: 10kW plug-in kit for Pirus V
    It will attract more attention and hopefully you will be able to get some help from somebody in your location.
     
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    If they can't get it to work hopefully you will get all your Money back if you pre-paid.
     
  8. waldo22

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    Thanks everyone for their interest. From my research, the Plug-in-Supply kit is superior to the Enginer kit in a lot of ways, especially safety and engine reliability.

    syscon, you are correct, this is the first installation in a Prius v. I asked before I purchased if it would work, and they told me it would. It wasn't until after I installed it that they told me this was the first Prius v installation.

    I don't mind being the guinea pig when it's been so well-tested on the Gen 3 Prius, but I do find it frustrating to not be able to get it working.

    It took so long to ship me the kit that they had dropped the price by nearly $800 before I even received the parts, and it's dropped another $800 since then.

    I still think Robb Protheroe (the proprietor) is a good guy, and is really doing this for the right reasons; to make a difference and help people use less fuel. I don't feel like he lied to me; I think he just assumed there was no technical reason the kit won't work with a Prius v, and he was wrong.

    It's just a very small company and I don't think he has the resources to keep doing R&D on this system when Toyota changes things in the cars. I know he doesn't have the resources to refund my money.

    The system is very well thought-out, I could tell that as I was assembling it. Lots of safety disconnects and such. For a company that is essentially one guy and a couple of contract engineers, it's amazing what they've built. Designed and manufactured custom circuit boards to interface with a modern CAN car!

    I'm definitely upset that it's not working, but at this point I'd rather play nice and try to help make it work than try to fight for a refund. Honestly, I'm still exited about this thing.

    Any of you California folks that want to help, please chime in.

    Again, I'm not asking people to let us take apart the car, and we don't need to "borrow it", we just need to meet somewhere (maybe a few times) and have an engineer sit in it with a laptop while you drive around :)

    -Wes

    PS How do I edit the thread title?
     
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    I just tired, I don't think there is an option to change/edit title.

    Do you know anybody who install this kit on newer Prius, 3rd. generation? Any link to Prius forum.

    If I'm not mistaken, reading their FAQ this battery charges NiMH battery only.
    So you are mixing two type of batteries, is it efficient? Who much loss it occurs?
    Your Prius V is taking current from HiMH battery and the computer limits how much current the battery can supply and at what speed, eg. if you step harder on the gas the engine will turn ON.

    I would imagine it would be easier to install this kind of addition battery in Plug-in Prius.
     
  10. waldo22

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    Supposedly that's what the front controller board is for; it fools the computer into pulling more current from the battery, and running in EV mode at speeds of up to 72mph.

    ...but of course the ICE still comes on if you accelerate faster than a certain amount.
     
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