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Nissan Leaf Blog

Discussion in 'Nissan/Infiniti Hybrids and EVs' started by DaveinOlyWA, Mar 2, 2011.

  1. DaveinOlyWA

    DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!!

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    there are a lot of people interested in the Leaf and its thoughts from owners in general including myself. so i thought that posting my Leaf Blog here might provide some answers or provoke questions.

    either way, here is blog link to peruse; took delivery jan 17th. so first one was two weeks later aptly titled "Two Weeks"

    My Nissan Leaf Forum • 2 Weeks

    #2 on 2/3/2011 was about the longest regular drive the Leaf would make and how it faired.

    My Nissan Leaf Forum • Acid Test Part 2

    #3 on 2/4/2011 was about a trip that is not regularly made. a meeting that would be beyond the Leafs range (actually waaay beyond because i got lost...)

    My Nissan Leaf Forum • Leaf Owners Meet; the Plan

    #4 entitled "122.8 Miles!!" pretty much says it all. it also goes into info on how the Leaf reacts as its range is reduced. keep in mind, i never hit Turtle mode!!

    My Nissan Leaf Forum • 122.8 Miles!!

    #5 is a waste of time for most of you...just too much "glow and smugness" to contain

    My Nissan Leaf Forum • 1000 Miles

    #6 entitled "Wish Lists" i am pretty happy with the Leaf and its accessories, but happiness always has its degrees... a few more degrees is always nice

    My Nissan Leaf Forum • Wish Lists

    #7 has been posted around and deals with range anxiety and maybe something many of you have already seen

    My Nissan Leaf Forum • Range Anxiety for Gas Owners

    #8 concerns the never ending debate on hypermiling and the best way to get the big numbers. i am not the expert on this topic

    My Nissan Leaf Forum • Regen and Hypermiling

    #9 deals with the #1 concern with any new car owners...the first ding

    My Nissan Leaf Forum • Door Dings and Parking Lots

    #10 "Reality Check" my thoughts after 6 weeks of Leafing and my sudden crash back to reality with a journey to the gas station

    My Nissan Leaf Forum • Reality Check

    #11 :"The Cost of Value Added" My Leaf was a Bargain at today's prices with today's issues http://www.mynissanleaf.com/blog.php?u=291&b=57
     
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    I look forward to reading the entries. I've only read reality check and range anxiety so far.

    BTW, regarding missing the news, you should get a TiVo :) or some other good DVR. TiVolution rocks! Been using one since March 2001. No need to have your life's schedule revolve around when a TV show's on and there's too much good stuff on TV when you're not home and/or not in front of it. It's WAY less hassle than time shifting w/a VCR and mucking w/tapes.

    I have season passes (they don't cost anything) set to record NBC and CBS news everyday along w/early evening local news broadcasts, 10 pm news and 11 pm news.
     
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    DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!!

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    i have a DVR but too lazy to program it usually. i dont actually have TV per se, at least no cable TV. but even without service i can get chanels 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9 , 10, 11, and 13.

    now i admit when i had cable TV, it was nice to watch them all without commercials which is something i must suffer thru. but i dont watch a whole lot of TV so i put up with it.
     
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    dave, is there some place that you detail your charging costs and electric bills?
     
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    Ahh... on TiVo, I just have season passes set. It'll auto-record every occurrence of that show on that channel while trying to be smart about not recording dupes, if possible.

    I have 58 season passes set on my lone TiVo HD. (No, I don't watch ALL the stuff I record nor do I even watch the news everyday, let alone all those airings of the news.)
     
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    well, i have info in my signature. but basically i pay around 10.2 cents per kwh and only track what i pay for...iow, if i plug in for free somewhere, the power gained is added to my usage but i simply dont add a value to it.

    to date, i have only received about 3 hours of freebie juice. i really dont need it most of the time. in fact i do not charge daily. on days i am working and dont have much going on, i will let it go a day or so. the big driving days are when SO takes car and Saturdays which is our only day off together
     
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    so you've gone 1500 miles for $50., if i'm paying $3.50/gal. and get 50 mpg (winter) 1500 miles will cost me a hundred bucks so, you're getting the equivalent of 100 mpg. does that make sense?
     
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    My gas cost is not that high yet but should not be long. On the Prius gas jumped 17 cents from the last fillup and I am guessing it will jump again soon.
    At $3.21 a gallon I would be basically getting 100 mpg or at least the same financially speaking. But last fillup was $3.30 and that was a week ago. Afraid to look at what it might be now
     
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    and is .102/kwh your total cost on your electric bill? iow if you use 100 kwh, your total bill with all charges is $10.20?
     
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    Ya. I pay tiered rates based on volume. Top tier for me is about 8.8 to 9.3 cents per kwh. We get a variable kickback from the bonneville administration that fluctuates constantly. So I simply take the numbers of killowatts and divide it by the total bill to get a per kwh cost. Despite the fluctuating costs the overall cost seems to be the same every month.
    Has been 10.2 per kwh for last 6 or 7 bills. Sometimes its up to 10.3-10.4 but usually only during summer time. I posted my electric bill on leaf comes home thread
     
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    excellent, great info, thanks dave!
     
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    Dave, your signature

    "If my Prius was a Leaf; last fillup would have been $13.96 instead of $34.60"

    So it looks like it will cost you $13.96 to travel 100 miles in the Leaf vs. $34.60 for 500 miles in the Prius? What am I missing?
     
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    The comment was based on the per mile cost of each vehicle. Iow it would cost $13.96 in electrictyin the Leaf or $34.60 in gas for the Prius to drive the 434 miles
     
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    Dave,

    How well are you able to hang with the pace of commute traffic in the Leaf?

    I find so many people are leadfoots in their cars, going too fast into the next stoplight. It is quite annoying when they're behind and I'm trying to save a little gas and my brakes.

    Do you find the Leaf zips along well without others passing up?
     
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    oh the Leaf has great acceleration and i could easily outrun most of them at speeds under 40 mph. now before in the Leaf and the Prius, i would have people go flying around me just to slam on their brakes to sit at a red light. with gas approaching $4 a gallon i notice a lot of people starting to drive more like me
     
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    In O.C. So Cal, regular is already $4. The local station's regular is $4.09 and climbing. Our PV system gets more and more valuable as we use the higher gas cost to reduce our remaining 3 year, 10 month "break even" period. It's all good.
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    we are up to $3.62 here. was stable for a bit, but has jumped a few cents over the past 2 days
     
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    #13 deals with thoughts on the cost of replacing the batteries in a Leaf. many place it in the "repair" category. i feel it being an integral part of the car means it should be in the depreciation category

    My Nissan Leaf Forum • Battery Pack Warranty