Obama's Foot in Mouth Disease, or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilCWJvRxVJ4&a%0Amp

Is that worse than dubya making fun of looking for WMDs? You think the 3000 dead soldiers' families thought it was funny? I'll bet you think it was funny. That's your type of humor, right? The neocon humor?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dbermanmd @ Aug 14 2007, 02:14 PM) [snapback]495488[/snapback]</div>

my it's easy to poke holes in the opposition... how about posting something positive about your candidate(s) of choice? Let people come back and poke holes in them too.

While it may not have been said in a politically correct manor, what he said is important.

In context, he was asked about what he thought about pulling troops out of Iraq to fight terrorism elsewhere. during his reply, he was simply attempting to show how important these troops could be elsewhere in the world.

Terrorism isn't something you can always fight with planes and bombs. The terrorists hide among populations of civilians, where planes dropping bombs does more harm than good. In places like those where there are known terrorists, it can be beneficial to have boots on the ground. At least, more beneficial that having troops fighting in the middle of another countries civil war.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(efusco @ Aug 14 2007, 12:18 PM) [snapback]495491[/snapback]</div>

It took a few tries, but Goolge found it:

The Examiner - Obama's comments on Afghanistan draw sharp rebuke from Romney campaign

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dbermanmd @ Aug 14 2007, 02:14 PM) [snapback]495488[/snapback]</div>

That's some nice spin. Considering that Obama "isn't ready for prime time" he sure is getting a lot of prime time coverage isn't he?

How about this. Senator Obama realizes that the only way to succeed in Afghanistan, the original and primary battlefield of the "war on terror" is to have enough troops to clear and occupy territory. That will never happen with the current level of troops. So to do this he would move troops from Iraqi civil war and move them to Afghanistan. Remember Afghanistan, the county that harbored the terrorist group that attacked us on 9/11?

The only way the US is going to leave Iraqi is in defeat, it is only a matter of timing.

I have a question for you. You seem to spend a lot of time posting your personal spin on comments made by Democratic presidential candidates. Shouldn't you instead be posting all the good ideas that the Republican candidates are proposing? Haven't they had any good ideas except for Gulliani's idea for the federal government to pay for the wealthy's health care premiums through tax rebates?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jhinton @ Aug 14 2007, 02:41 PM) [snapback]495517[/snapback]</div>

Criticism, negativity and personal attacks is what NeoCons do.

Put berman on ignore. Life becomes much more pleasant.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dbermanmd @ Aug 14 2007, 02:50 PM) [snapback]495523[/snapback]</div>

You can shoot them, sure... but it's pretty hard to drop a bomb from a plane and only take out the terrorists and not the elementary school next door.

I've said it before and i'll said it again. conversing with people is a three step process:
step 1: read
step 2: comprehend
step 3: reply

You've got step 3 down, occasionally do step 1, but step 2 seems to be rather absent from your posts...

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Godiva @ Aug 14 2007, 03:55 PM) [snapback]495533[/snapback]</div>

Flip / Flop Criticism, negativity and personal attacks is what Liberals do..

Oh pot to kettle..

Hmmm do a search of past topics and see who can stand in their glass house and cast stones...

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dbermanmd @ Aug 14 2007, 03:08 PM) [snapback]495534[/snapback]</div>

I would call myself a realist. There is no way 150K Americans are going to hold together a country comprised of 3 rival groups that hate each other with two of those factions in an open civil war and one looking to form it's own country. It might have turned out differently if we had gone in with 500K to 750K troops like the military leaders wanted to but that would just be guessing. We will never know what would have happened if the Bush administration had listened to the military.

Yes I am depressed. Every day more Americans and Iraqis die in a continuing cycle of violence. The Iraqi politicians are no closer to forming any type of government than they were 18 months ago, and large portions of the country are under the control of local militias. The population has less access to medical care, food, water, electricity and sanitation than before the invasion. There is a lot to be depressed about.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dbermanmd @ Aug 14 2007, 03:08 PM) [snapback]495534[/snapback]</div>

You seem to think that I'm a supporter of Senator Obama. I'm not, at least not at this point. I still haven't decided between Obama, Clinton, or Edwards. I also haven't decided yet who would be the best pick among the Republicans though I would most likely go for McCain as I voted for him back in 2000. I haven't even decided whether to register as a Democrat or Republican now that I have moved to Alabama.

P.S. Your continued reference to Senator Obama by his middle and last names is beyond childish and smacks of racism.

 

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/08/14/...-Fact-Check.php
THE FACT CHECK:

A check of the facts shows that Western forces have been killing civilians at a faster rate than the insurgents have been killing civilians.

The U.S. and NATO say they do not have civilian casualty figures, but The Associated Press has been keeping count based on figures from Afghan and international officials. Tracking civilian deaths is a difficult task because they often occur in remote and dangerous areas that are difficult to reach and verify.

As of Aug. 1, the AP count shows that while militants killed 231 civilians in attacks in 2007, Western forces killed 286. Another 20 were killed in crossfire that can't be attributed to one party.

Afghan President Hamid Karzai expressed his concern about the civilian deaths during a meeting last week with President George W. Bush.

Bush said he understands the agony that Afghans feel over the loss of innocent lives and that he is doing everything he can to protect them. He said the Taliban are using civilians as human shields and have no regard for their lives.

"The president rightly expressed his concerns about civilian casualty," Bush said of Karzai. "And I assured him that we share those concerns."

 

mojo, thanks for that post. Clearly Berman's little temper tantrum is just that and nothing more. Fortunately we here with more brains than him know better.

Obama is my favorite for this election. I believe he has by far the most potential to clean up the horrible mess made over the last 7 years by the current administration. He's also a very intelligent man who has a long resume of getting things done. Highly recommend to all to read and/or listen to the audiobook of his "Dreams of My Father" book he wrote 10+ years ago before he got into public office. It is very revealing of who Obama is and the tremendous potential he has to be the best president this country has seen in the past 100 years.