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P0003, P0103, P0203, P0403, P0300, P0301, P0302, P0304

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by phase_boy, Mar 7, 2019.

  1. phase_boy

    phase_boy Junior Member

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    Good morning.

    Last Sunday night, my 2005 Prius (about 240,000 KMs) developed a minor shudder in the engine. I had been driving it about five minutes when it started. Ambient temperature was about -5 C. As I drove along, the shudder got worse until it became quite violent (especially when the engine was at or near idle speed). When idling, and battery charging kicked in, the shuddering was even worse. No check engine light came on that night. There was a distinct loss of power when accelerating.

    Then last night, I started it and it sounded normal (it was a relatively cold night, about -12 C). It drove well until about five or so minutes had passed, at which point the shudder started and became rather violent right away. Then a check engine light appeared. I plugged in a little wifi reader I have, and downloaded the DTCs to my phone:

    P0003, P0103, P0203, P0403, P0300, P0301, P0302, P0304:
    Multiple cylinder misfires
    Fuel volume regulator control circuit low
    Mass or volume air flow meter circuit high input
    Injector circuit malfunctions
    Exhaust gas recirculation circuit malfunction

    When the engine shuddering started, the coolant temperature was around 40 C. When the engine is cold (like below zero cold), I don't detect any shuddering or loss of power.

    I'm in the dark here. Any thoughts? I had always assumed the HV battery would be the first thing to go (the car is 14 years old, after all).


    Thanks for reading,

    Sylvan
     
  2. SFO

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    Welcome to PriusChat !!

    Which OBD2 reader and app (software) are you using, there is a possibility of it not being fully hybrid compatible.

    You might look into locating/borrowing a hybrid compatible reader (pep boys, autozone, oreillys, AAP, etc) and try pulling those DTCs again.

    Those temps are fairly chilly, what grade/weight of oil are you using for winter weather ?
     
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  3. Patrick Wong

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    I agree that the OP needs to get a better code reader. There is no EGR system on 2G Prius, for example.

    Also, I suggest that the OP should clean the throttle body interior and throttle plate using throttle body cleaner sprayed upon a clean cloth. Use the cloth to scrub out the dirt. Do not drown the throttle body in cleaner fluid.

    Clean the mass air flow sensor using MAF cleaner. If the iridium spark plugs were not replaced yet, do that now. Use the correct Denso or NGK iridium spark plugs.
     
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  4. phase_boy

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    Thank you SFO and Patrick for your thoughtful replies.

    I'm including the prices (in CAD $) of items I bought today as a reference for any other local Prius Gen 2 owners in the area who may see this.

    The code reader I'm using is some generic thing from Amazon (Etekcity Super Mini Wifi, $28.30, no longer available, purchased in 2015 for fun, years before my car ever threw a code). I don't remember why I chose it. I use it with an app on my iPhone 5 called Car Scanner Pro ELM OBD2 ($6.31 from the Apple App Store).

    Here in Montreal, I am using 5W-30, as specified in the manual and on the oil fill cap. I have tended to use synthetic over the years. Is there a weight of oil you recommend I use instead?

    This morning I got up early and cleaned the MAF sensor with CRC SensorKleen Mass Air Flow Sensor Cleaner ($10.91 from Canadian Tire). I let it dry thoroughly before reassembling it. I did not touch any of the sensors. I also cleaned, to the best of my ability, the throttle body intake and plate with CRC Throttle Body Kleen Intake Cleaner ($12.06 from Canadian Tire) using a clean rag and a toothbrush. I did not drown the throttle body in cleaner fluid. Below, the MAF before cleaning:
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    At noon I replaced the spark plugs with four new NGK IFR5T11 ($64.35 from Canadian Tire). I used a torque wrench and followed the instructions in this post (minus the anti-seize on the threads): How to Replace Gen II Prius Spark Plugs and PCV Valve | PriusChat .

    Here is what the spark plugs looked like (I have no idea when they were last changed, if ever):
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    A couple of things:
    There was some dirty water in the first (the leftmost when viewing the engine from the front of the car) spark plug hole / valley / whatever it's called. I soaked up what I could with a rag. The upper, metal part of that first spark plug was rusty. In the past, I have seen water pooled around the rubber seal of that first ignition coil after rain and often during winter. I hate how water collects there. I wonder if this has maybe caused a fault in the ignition coil which is causing the misfiring / knocking.

    The fourth injector connector (rightmost) was full of oil. The others were not. Why might this be?
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    I removed and inspected the PCV valve. I could not find a replacement PCV valve locally today, so I put it back. I did not know what I was looking for while inspecting it, but it rattled when I shook it and didn't look very dirty at all.


    Thanks again for your help.

    Sylvan
     
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  5. Patrick Wong

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    Do you see any engine oil leaking from the valve cover? Or is it possible that someone spilt oil at the #4 injector?

    Or is that really fuel leaking from the injector?

    Use black RTV sealant at the gap between the two plastic cowl cover pieces, above the center of the engine. Water is seeping at that seam and dripping on the engine.

    Inspect the spark igniters and if there are any burn marks, cracking of the plastic body, or rust stains, replace the igniter.

    Then clear the fault codes and see if there is any improvement.
     
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  6. phase_boy

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    Hello again. It's been a few weeks. Patrick, thank you for your comments.

    A little update:

    For two weeks after changing the spark plugs, the engine ran fine. No detectable misfiring, no check engine light; ran like a dream, really!

    But then it started again. As usual, only when the engine warmed up. It's spring, so it's been raining a fair bit, and maybe that was part of it. After a week or so, it got so bad that the car began to feel under-powered. So today I went to an auto parts store and bought a single new ignition coil (a YEC Flamma for $104.17 CAD). It was the cheapest one I could find (they seem to be more like $25 USD on amazon US, but I'm in Canada, etc. etc.). I suspected the first cylinder was the one misfiring, so I changed out that coil with the new one and the problem immediately went away. Now, it's only been a day since I replaced it, but it seems positive.

    The #1 coil I removed looked to be in pretty good condition, although it had a ring of rust around the lower portion.

    I also bought some black RTV sealant and sealed the gap between the two plastic cowl pieces. Not a pretty job, but I believe it will help prevent the top of the engine from becoming a swimming pool again. Interesting that there was a TSB about this in 2004.

    I have gotten no further in diagnosing the oily substance in the #4 injector connector. I don't believe anyone spilled oil there (it seems unlikely, given its distance from the oil cap). I can't tell if there's oil leaking from the valve cover, but I haven't really gotten in there and had a good look yet. Would fuel turn into what looks like oil? I figured it would just evaporate; but then, I am no expert.


    Thanks again.

    Sylvan
     
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    Did you get it figured out Sylvan? I am curious and also have a car that is randomly misfiring....
     
  8. phase_boy

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    Hi PapaWill,

    As I wrote in late March, replacing the #1 ignition coil solved the misfiring problem. Eight months later, the car is driving well. I don't know if your car is experiencing the same problem as mine, but changing the coil instantly fixed it for me. If you buy a single new coil, you can just switch it out with each of the four coils in the engine, one by one, and see if the misfiring goes away.

    As for the oil I found on top of the engine, I stopped worrying about it. The engine burns a tiny bit of oil, so I periodically top it up. Seems fine.

    Good luck to you.


    Sylvan
     
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