Parents Protest Gay Fairytale for 2nd Graders...

WOW~

Again a perfect example of how american officials have givin in, so not to offend. LOL if this was done in the 80's the parents would have dragged the teacher out into the parking lot and clubbed/stoned him.
At least they are being civil about it..

this could also bring up the topic homosexual: indoctrinated or born with it.? Thats a good one!

 

Seems more like 'HETEROsexual: indoctrinated or not?' is appropriate.

Cases abound where people seem to be brow-beaten into marrying someone of the opposite sex, then give it up later for what they REALLY want.

Fitting in being very important, it's more likely that people would switch to something acceptable rather than something that people attack.

Notice how easily not 'fitting in' got this thread started?...

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(efusco @ Apr 20 2006, 10:25 AM) [snapback]242673[/snapback]</div>

My hat is off to you Doc. I also believe in presenting the truth to children. They are way smarter than most people give them credit for. Not allowing your child to have all information available to them when they make a choice limits their ability to make an informed choice.
As mentioned in another post, the information given to them at any given time should be compatible with their developmental level, but it should be true.
Parental Bias causes children to fear dogs for no good reason, to not learn how to swim, and to be prejudice.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(priusguy04 @ Apr 20 2006, 09:50 AM) [snapback]242647[/snapback]</div>

Oh good!..now we get into the homesexual debate.....

Humm..... where shall I begin?.....

First of all the homesexual union cannot be of God... otherwise the union could procreate...

regardless of anyones "opinion", its against nature as a union. The creator didn't intend it so.


The Act of marrying is not a political move.. its a union of two becoming one.... where do you think the whole "marriage" thing came from anyway.. the tooth fairy?

Gays wanting to marry is just corrupting the original purpose of marrying and if they legally get married, they are still not married where the two become one.

Don't even go there....... God does not condon it or a whole city would not have been destroyed with fire over the homesexual thing... which history and science defends too btw..
Where do you think the word "Sodom" as in "sodomy" came from anyway?..... it was a city thats not fried!

Churches who condons it will have the greatest accountablitity.... hate to be one of those pastors!

Now if you want to talk about thier rights to live together and play with each others tally whackers...and let little critters run up their poot shoot until they suffocate to death "put that in your vegetarian pipe and smoke it! , .... then thats different!.. but don't use the word marriage in any part of it!

And don't tell me what I just said is offensive to you if you support gays........ make up your mind!

You can't like the icing on the cake and hate what its made of!

If you can't swallow what they do, why do you want to feed that crap to your 2nd graders?

When they were in the closet, that was one thing... they were free to do what they would before God without impressing it upon everyone else as normal.

If everyone in the country starts child molesting thier children... is it then "normal"?

Normal is defined not on the majority, but the original.

There... thats a little gasoline for the fire!

References:
(Rom 1:26 KJV) For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

(Rom 1:27 KJV) And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(efusco @ Apr 20 2006, 01:25 PM) [snapback]242673[/snapback]</div>

I think the issue relates to what you think is right for you to teach your kids may not be right for everyone. I think that each set of parents wants to retain the right to teach THEIR children their own set of values and morals. Granted that there can be those who teach (or don't teach) their children well, but societies role in teaching all children should be reserved for what I refer to as central issues like Math, Science - and leave the "judgement" calls like homosexuality and gay marrage to the parents.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(windstrings @ Apr 20 2006, 12:41 PM) [snapback]242685[/snapback]</div>

And what about hetero couples who for whatever reason are unable to conceive? Should we test for sterility at birth and just kill them then? Are couples who choose not to have children not really married? Are they going to hell, too?

Marriage is a union of the hearts, not the parts.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(windstrings @ Apr 20 2006, 01:41 PM) [snapback]242685[/snapback]</div>

but yet King James was gay :blink:

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(hyo silver @ Apr 20 2006, 02:08 PM) [snapback]242699[/snapback]</div>

Whether I agree or not really doesn't matter. But, consider this:

Where would the world be if today, everyone decided they were homosexual? In about 100 years, it would be an empty place.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Maytrix @ Apr 20 2006, 02:21 PM) [snapback]242710[/snapback]</div>

Umm, but wouldn't artificial insemination work?

Seems to work now as-needed...

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Maytrix @ Apr 20 2006, 02:21 PM) [snapback]242710[/snapback]</div>

are you saying that the only way for the world to exists is when humans inhabit this planet?

 

Would it work, sure. Does it make it right though?

I think we do a lot of things today, simply because we can and without thinking of the consequences. New Orleans is a great example. A city built below sea level? Why? Because humans are foolish and do things just because they can. Obviously there still would have been great damage in that area even if nothing had been below sea level, but it would have been quite different.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(hybridTHEvibe @ Apr 20 2006, 02:28 PM) [snapback]242715[/snapback]</div>

Not at all. The world would still be here, just no humans

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Maytrix @ Apr 20 2006, 02:33 PM) [snapback]242718[/snapback]</div>

that's not necessarily a bad thing

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(hybridTHEvibe @ Apr 20 2006, 02:37 PM) [snapback]242720[/snapback]</div>

It's not always good either. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad. The problem is, the person coming up with the idea doesn't care whether it's good or bad.

Case in point - nuclear weapons. The are the most useless thing ever - all they do is keep everyone in check. Noone can use them, because it would be world genocide.

 

I am sorry to see fellow Oregonian, Windstrings, come down on the wrong side of this.

I invite Windstrings to come visit our household and marriage, and see for himself what same-gender marriage actually looks like.

Maytrix asks: "Where would the world be if today, everyone decided they were homosexual? In about 100 years, it would be an empty place."

Once again perpetuating the myth that homosexuality is a "decision" or "choice". The truth is that homosexuality has been observed in some form or another in most species including primates. It is a natural occurrence (the exact factors are not entirely known) and has existed throughout time.

It's like saying "If everyone drove Priuses, there would be no room for large families, therefore Priuses are bad." There are many kind of cars, and there are many kinds of families. Each kind of family contributes to society in its own way.

If you want to talk in bizarre hypotheticals, I'll make this pledge: If the world population starts declining because people "decide" to stop having babies for no good reason (such as available resources) and all the unwanted children are adopted and there is still a problem, and volunteers are required to do their civic duty and reproduce, I'll sign up. Until then, stop harping on non-breeders (straight or gay.)

- Bob R.

 

I think the book does not endorse or advocate a particular way of life. It is just a way of pointing out a way in which some couples live, a possible outcome for some people. There are lots of committed long-term same-gender relationships in the world, always have been. Kids in any area, rural, suburban, urban, are going to encounter same-gender couples. The book simply points out what exists. It doesn't say to kids "this is the way you should be", it says "this is the way that some people are". It gives the kids the tools to understand that which they are likely to encounter. That's one part of what school is about.

- Bob R.