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  1. hycamguy07

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    Man thats really scary, 1 st. it was spinach then lettus and now dog & cat food! :eek: :(
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(hycamguy07 @ Mar 19 2007, 09:36 AM) [snapback]408389[/snapback]</div>
    Another reason to decentralize. F'ing corn is going to be the death of us.
     
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    I wonder if this will cause liver problems to the human population who are forced by poverty to consume pet food.
    Or if the CDC would draw any connection to a spike in human liver disease and pet food.
     
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    While they haven't traced it, they suspect it might be Wheat gluten.

    No problem to people.

    The reason you DON'T give real people gravy to dogs.

    The real scare in this all isn't the litigation for the dead pets. It's the financial fallout when people look at the list and realize that the really expensive dog and cat food they're buying at PetSmart is the same as the cheap stuff at Winn-Dixie and WalMart. Perhaps that's why the first news release came from the business and financial editors and was marked NOT for distribution in the U.S. Way to protect the bottom line.

    Press Recall

    Links for lists of dog and cat food being recalled.

    If you click on the specific dog or cat food it will list all of the lot/date/whatever numbers of the suspected cans. I'd just return any can from any story listed or any brand listed.

    BTW some companies that are NOT on the list are recalling their products anyway "just in case". I think this is extremely responsible of them.
     
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    The Diamond recall was in 2005. (link)

    The current recall is for wet food only. Unless they have changed it recently. My pets are all on dry food, so I'm OK. At least Eukanuba says that I am.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Skwyre7 @ Mar 19 2007, 09:07 PM) [snapback]408710[/snapback]</div>
    And some food in pouches.

    I check the ingredients and avoid food with corn. I had a dog that was allergic and corn is the most likely allergin. When I got my current puppy I started him off corn-free from the start. He's also been on dry from the start. I switched the previous dogs to Canidae but the new puppy has been on Wellness from the start.

    This is a nightmare. It reveals our vulnerability. This could have been baby food with babies getting sick and dieing.

    One wonders if we'll be victims of "cost cutting". I can't imagine any other reason for the contamination of the processing equipment for the peanut butter than someone cutting corners, trying to save a buck.

    Pet Food Recall article.

    "Menu Foods, the Ontario-based company that produced the pet food, said Saturday it was recalling dog food sold under 46 brands and cat food sold under 37 brands including Iams, Nutro and Eukanuba. The food was distributed throughout the United States, Canada and Mexico by major retailers such as Wal-Mart, Kroger and Safeway."

    "The recall covers the company's "cuts and gravy" style food, which consists of chunks of meat in gravy, sold in cans and small foil pouches from Dec. 3 to March 6."

    "The company said it makes pet food for 17 of the top 20 North American retailers. It is also a contract manufacturer for the top branded pet food companies, including Procter & Gamble Co."
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Godiva @ Mar 19 2007, 09:23 PM) [snapback]408719[/snapback]</div>
    Contaminated worker too lazy to wash his or her hands? No, couldn't possibly be that.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(AnOldHouse @ Mar 19 2007, 09:50 PM) [snapback]408732[/snapback]</div>
    More like lazy worker too careless or stupid to properly clean the machinery used to process the food.

    They don't make peanut butter with their hands.
     
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    You know I find it funny that Walmarts Old Roy, IAMS & Eukanuba are made by the same companies with the same ingrediants.... :blink: And each is higher priced than the other :rolleyes:

    Thats why I only feed my dogs Holistic dog food, You can read the ingrediance without having to decifer the big words on the PC... :mellow:

    Since I made the switch, the itchy skin stopped, allergies stopped, excessive gas stopped.....
    I was buying IAMs never again..... B)
     
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    I hope that everyone here has been luckey and that ther pets are well.

    Buy the way hycamguy07, which one is Rudy in your Avatar? :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
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    Thankfully after reading about cat nutrition I recently switched to a canned food that contains no grain products. I had read that cats aren't supposed to be eating grain but should have a more meat laden diet. I buy the Wellness cans. They contain meat, veggies and fruits but no meat byproducts, eggs or grains.

    I still have cans left over of the Nutro Natural Choice and while I see that cans are not included in the affected list, their pouches are. How in the heck can one packaged source be contaminated when the cans aren't? It's the same date ranges and the same formula. I'm not chancing it. I'm throwing it out.

    Hopefully, all your pets are ok.
     
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    Check the ingredients of the dry or canned food you're using for your dog.

    If it has corn, buy something else. Corn is the most likely cause of skin problems and other allergies.

    If your dog is *really* allergic, you can't even give them a milkbone treat. (But you can bake your own goodies; there are many recipes out there.)

    Best bet is Lamb and rice for delicate stomachs.

    My dog is on chicken and rice. He's not allergic and has no stomach problems. I'm confident the Wellness does not use anything that has had hormones added, not so sure about Iams, Eukenuba or others. If they put corn in it, who knows where the meat comes from?

    My dog relies on me to make good choices for him. He can't read the label.

    They are on this earth for so short a time, I don't want anything *I* do to shorten the time they have.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Godiva @ Mar 20 2007, 12:40 PM) [snapback]408974[/snapback]</div>
    You bring up a good point about allergies. My cat had to go to a specialist as he lost a patch of hair on his neck. There were little bumps surrounding, and in, this patch. They couldn't figure out what was wrong but mentioned allergies (they deduced this based on testing for mites, etc.). This was what led me to research their diet more thoroughly. Since he's been on a no grain diet, his hair has grown back and no more bumps. It could just be coincidence. I still don't have the results from the ring worm test back but I'm fairly certain this wasn't the issue. I'm more convinced he suffered from food allergies.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Godiva @ Mar 19 2007, 09:55 PM) [snapback]408735[/snapback]</div>
    No they don't and I didn't say they did. But they clean, or are supposed to clean the machinery with their hands which were obviously contaminated.

    But back to your original point...not sure how a "lazy worker too careless or stupid" fits with your statement that you "can't imagine any other reason for the contamination of the processing equipment for the peanut butter than someone cutting corners, trying to save a buck."
     
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    Moisture let to salmonella in peanut butter.

    I said someone cutting corners to save a buck.

    Would neglecting to repair a leaky roof and fix faulty sprinklers constitute cutting corners to save a buck?

    "Moisture from a leaky roof and faulty sprinkler helped salmonella bacteria grow and contaminate peanut butter at its Georgia plant last year, sickening more than 400 people nationwide, ConAgra Foods said Thursday."

    "Childs said the company traced the salmonella outbreak to three problems at its Sylvester, Ga., plant last August.

    The plant's roof leaked during a rainstorm, and the sprinkler system went off twice because of a faulty sprinkler, which was repaired.

    The moisture from those three events mixed with dormant salmonella bacteria in the plant that Childs said likely came from raw peanuts and peanut dust.

    The plant was cleaned thoroughly after the roof leak and sprinkler problem, but the salmonella remained and somehow came in contact with peanut butter before it was packaged, she said."

    "The company plans to redesign the plant to provide greater separation between raw peanuts and the finished product, Childs said. The plant will also get a new roof."

    *Now* it gets a new roof.

    "But most cases of salmonella poisoning are caused by undercooked eggs and chicken. The only previously known salmonella outbreak in peanut butter — in Australia during the mid-1990s — was blamed on unsanitary plant conditions."

    Does damp peanuts from a leaky roof and faulty sprinklers constitute unsanitary plant conditions?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Godiva @ Mar 19 2007, 08:06 PM) [snapback]408679[/snapback]</div>
    Uhh.. there is a big difference between the cheap stuff and the expensive stuff. Just compare the main ingredience. You can feed your dog corn or chicken by-product.. I'll be feeding mine lamb and rice.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(desynch @ Apr 6 2007, 06:51 PM) [snapback]419101[/snapback]</div>
    There is a difference between some expensive stuff and some cheap stuff. Check out the ingredients of Nutro, Purina, Science Diet, Iam, Eukanuba and some of the more well known brands and you'll find they contain corn. And/or "meat by products". Check out the ingredients between the "expensive" and the "cheap" and they're the same; there's just a difference in amounts; the expensive having more protein and the cheap having more filler. For some of these, the difference is just the label and the price on the can.

    I bought Cannidae for my last two dogs. They ate less of it than the cheap stuff because there was less filler. Thus less dog poop. I eventually put my Caesar on a special lamb and rice diet because I suspected he had a corn allergy. Goliath got the same because I wasn't buying two different dog foods.

    When I got Ramses I started him on Wellness as a puppy.

    I don't feed my dog anything with corn or chicken by-products. Chicken meat yes, beaks and feet, no. And I've kept him off corn from day one because its contribution to allergies.

    The ingredients on my dog's food are suitable for human consumption. *I* could eat the stuff. No meat by products, no rendered animal fats, no wheat, corn, soy, dairy or eggs, white rice, sugar, salt, artificial dyes, flavors, colors or preservatives. No chicken feet or beaks or dead pets.

    It's got deboned chicken, oatmeal, barley, brown rice, tomatoes, whitefish, carrots, spinach, apples, sweet potatoes, blueberries, canola oil and supplemental vitamin stuff. They also have a lamb and rice version just as healthy. This is put out by Wellness. www.wellnesspetfood.com

    My parents use Cannidae lamb and rice. Also no corn or chicken beaks or dead pets. Or wheat gluten.

    Even the treats we use don't have wheat gluten. They give their dog dried chicken strips. Mine gets the occasional pig ear and Milk Bone sirloin burger treats.

    If worse came to worse, I've got plenty of doggie recipe books. I could make him dinner from scratch every day. It would be time-consuming and more expensive, but he wouldn't die from melamine or aminopterin.

    Walmart treats join pet food recall.

    China probing tainted wheat gluten claim

    At least China is now investigating. Before they were in complete denial. But apparently tainted food and medicine is a problem as is their inspection record. It's only dogs and cats now. But whose to say it won't be people the next time.