PiP Survey

Discussion in 'Gen 1 Prius Plug-in 2012-2015' started by DaveinOlyWA, Dec 23, 2014.

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  1. Charge EVERY night at home

    9 vote(s)
    16.1%
  2. Charge EVERY night and home and every day publicly or at home

    20 vote(s)
    35.7%
  3. Charge EVERY night at home and occasionally during the day

    16 vote(s)
    28.6%
  4. Charge mostly every night at home

    6 vote(s)
    10.7%
  5. Charge occasionally at home or away from home

    4 vote(s)
    7.1%
  6. rarely charge anywhere

    1 vote(s)
    1.8%
  1. El Dobro

    El Dobro A Member

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    I keep the car charged up at home and I charge up at work. There aren't any charging stations at stores around here.
     
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    :)Hard to imagine they can do a lease under those terms. That's a fantastic deal or anything close on a great EV. Most BMW dealers do a extended three day test drive to see if the i3 is the right vehicle for you.
     
  3. bisco

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    i agree, but a local dealer popped up here. of course, it could be a come on, but someone else said leaf's are going for even cheaper.
     
  4. DaveinOlyWA

    DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!!

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    the deal is not that good but keep in mind, the sticker on the BMW is MUCH higher than the LEAF. the real cost is $305 a month with a big chunk of that in advance with the $3K down and only 10,000 miles I believe. Compare that to my LEAF which does not have the bells and whistles but not stuff I miss anyway and does have the Charge package which includes chademo and the faster onboard 6.6 KW charger and its no down, $245 a month, 15,000 miles annually
     
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  5. bisco

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    there's not much charging around here, what's the fastest i can install at home, and how much is the evse?
     
  6. DaveinOlyWA

    DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!!

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    I did http://www.evseupgrade.com to modify the existing EVSE that comes with the car to run at 240 volts. It is site run by "peef" he was the guy from silicon valley who did the first DIY (maybe not the first but BY FAR the best) PiPs with a 2006? Prius. It was umm, forget... but its currently $287. I would recommend some adapters which run about $20 each. or you can get dedicated EVSE that runs in the $500-700 range.

    the reason I picked the evseupgrade is because I rent so I need something that is easy to move from house to house. Its programmable which means it can literally plug in anywhere. I can vary the amperage from 8 to 20 @ 240 which means it only goes to 4.8 KW and vary 120 volts amperage from 6 to 20. I never turned in the EVSE from my first LEAF so have two in case I need to turn one in in the future. And this option is cheaper.

    To make it work at my house (I am a renter and have been lucky enough to move 3 times in past 4 years...long story) I installed dryer plug in the garage. permit for dryer plug; $32. permit for EVSE; $125. power requirements for both are the same...

    Now there are a lot of "plug and charge" EVSEs which means they simply hang on the wall and plug in like any other appliance so no hard wiring involved. When I started driving LEAFs there was no such bird. Advantage of dedicated EVSE is that it can charge the full rate. There is however, very little difference in the actual time to charge and nearly all of it is done overnight. Even with my lesser charging speed, it only takes 4 hours or so.

    Another thing to consider; the EVSE upgrade from Phil (peef on this board) is rock solid reliable. the other EVSE's are not. most work just great but have heard too many people get up one morning to find a fault in the charger due to its inability to communicate with your home wifi, ethernet or whatever you got going. The main benefit of these "connected" options is to set the charge timer, etc. The LEAF also has this built in so its redundant anyway
     
  7. Potorap

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    I picked #2, I charge every night and at work and multiple times on days off. When I go to Vegas for the day I can plan my trips around stations and do quite well. Very happy with the pip. Technology is changing so fast Iwill wait and watch it unfold.
     
  8. bisco

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    mitch672 built an L2 charger for me. i think he said it would go up to 30 amps, but i'd have to contact him, not sure if it's automatic or would need some change. he's on to tesla now, so not on here much.
     
  9. fortytwok

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    I'd rather buy but here you go - save a buck off Bisco's price :
    BMW Special Offers Available in Nashua | Tulley BMW of Nashua
     
  10. bisco

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    when you figure around 7 grande for the best two years and 20,000 miles of the car, seems pretty reasonable. but it would have to be a lot nicer than the leaf to make it worthwhile, or you have to be a beemer aficionado. i did like the car in person, from the outside, and looking at the interior.
     
  11. DaveinOlyWA

    DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!!

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    have not seen one in person yet but the pix I have seen are a bit.... "different" but then again, it was always the black on white one which is not in my top 3 for color choices.
     
  12. drash

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    Would you be getting the REX version or the straight EV? It is a great EV nonetheless and with the way you drive, the straight EV would probably get you over 100 miles. You are getting a higher performance (i3 motor 125kW vs Leaf motor 80kW) car in a smaller package.

    I went with a Clipper Creek that plugs into a standard 14-50 NEMA and can supply 7.7 kWh. It would recharge the Leaf in 4 hours and the i3 in 3.5 hours.
     
  13. DaveinOlyWA

    DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!!

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    sorry but gas is gas. would NEVER consider the REX mode especially at that price. There was also people on MNL who had LEAF/Volt households and were justifying extended maintenance intervals based on low annual "gas" miles. keep in mind; oil should be changed on a mileage interval or a time interval and which ever COMES FIRST.

    Price/peformance wise, its still hard to beat the POP (Plain old Prius)
     
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    If I were to get another plug-in, it would be all EV, be it Nissan Leaf, BMW i3, or Mercedes B-Class Electric. No more worrying about whether the gas I'm putting in will go stale before I use it.

    bisco: I'd take them for a test drive. The Leaf has a longer wheel base and smaller tires = better ride. Another plus for the Leaf is its front wheel drive - I'm thinking snow here. The BMW i3 on the other hand has a thermal managed battery pack, carbon-fiber body, and of course performance and handling.
     
  15. bisco

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    definitely will do that if i get close to pulling the trigger. btw, your gas won't go bad, the ice runs every 124 miles.
     
  16. hill

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    what .... are ya some kinda light weight?

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    You gona let a little luggage slow ya down?
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  17. PriusC_Commuter

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    You are not taking into consideration those of us who bought the PiP exclusively for the HOV lane benefit but turned out to actually like plugging in, and then move on to buying a BEV (such as a LEAF in my case).
     
  18. DaveinOlyWA

    DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!!

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    that is what the comments section is for. we only think there are perfect surveys out there.
     
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  19. Susan4ET

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    Couldn't quite fit the right choice. I settled for every night at home but in fact I charge every day or night at home only. There is only one charge station I'm aware of and its location is rarely convenient and they decided last year or so to start charging for the charge. Since its location is reached in just a couple miles the charge need is more a nuisance. In my travels outside my driving domain I do not bother looking for charge stations. At this point in time with a hybrid it is clearly more trouble then it is worth beyond my home.
     
  20. bisco

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    specially with $2.50 gas.
     
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