Plug-ins?? Is it really..?

There are also those that bought PIPs with big incentives that got the price down to the Three price range.

 

yer numbers are off buddy, waaaaaaay off. stop guessing and go visit a dealer for the facts.
how long will it take to pay back your car over a corolla?

 

There is the entertainment value of course. Do you base all of your options on payback?
I opted for a sunroof. Uh oh, I don't think that's ever going to pay itself back!

 

Buy one from NY, NJ or MA where there are large incentives, then with the tax credit it's close in price to the 3. (The PiP base is a 3 plus heated seats plus plug-in.) The higher value will likely lead to higher insurance cost.

With a 30 mile commute you get the EV range plus it improves the warm-up time. Or if it's a highway commute you can use the battery to blend with the engine to improve overall cost.

With the incentivized price the relative cost is much better. If I were going to buy a Prius I wouldn't be shopping for anything except a cheap PiP. It doesn't matter where you live, you can have a car shipped.

 

Don't half step. Go full EV. Check out the Fiat 500e. Cost around $22,000 in California after incentives. 80 mile range. And... The real cool part : 12 days free rental per year at enterprise with unlimited mileage for three years for the occasional road trip. Pretty cool !!

 

I'm in Oregon but rebates and tax incentives on straight hybrids are a thing of the past AFAIK.

 

Nope. CA has $1500 rebate on PiP and US $2500 tax credit on PiP.
If CA is your state, PiP HOV access is another key advantage.
Oregon and maybe Colorado give regular Prius a pretty good incentive.
PiP prices are higher in CA so some have shipped from East Coast.

 

I thought Oregon gave regular Prius same incentive as PiP.
All I know I learned from folks here, so let me know if I am wrong.

 

Nothing I'm aware of and I bought mine a little over a year ago here in Oregon. I don't think there are tax incentives on the regular Prii anywhere any more. Certainly nothing Federal.

 

Check out this link and get back to me. Another member here said this means you can take $1500 combined tax credit on PiP and regular prius.

http://www.oregon.gov/ENERGY/cons/res/tax/docs/hybridform.pdf

...hmm link is no longer working, was a few weeks ago

 

Oregon Incentives and Tax Credits for Hybrid and Electric Vehicles | iSeeCars

I think they ended in 2010 in Oregon.

 

Yes thank you...looks like the state still had the Hybrid credit web page active (with no end date mentioned), so some people thought it was still good.

Do we know what PiP/Prius incentive is available in Oregon? Plug in America says $750 tax credit for Plug_ins. Is this correct? Does this also apply to Prius regular?

Oregon is a car tax free state, right? And a CARB state.

EDIT: Apparently some folks were able to still able to get the old Prius tax credit because Oregon still had the on-line forms active. Now the forms are removed from the web, so that's all folks.

 

The Volt is about $3,000 more than a PiP but it gives you a full-power EV driving experience (no gas engine at any speed or acceleration) until the battery runs out. The battery range is also 3.5-4.0 times farther (Volt can go 50 miles on a single charge under favorable conditions). The Volt also has OnStar telematics with smartphone and web access to control and download information from your car.

On the downside, the Volt has a bit less interior room with 4 seats instead of 5 and the gas engine when you are using it is about 25% less efficient. It's also from GM instead of Toyota although I've had good reliability with mine so far over almost 2.5 years and 50,000 miles.

It all depends on what your personal driving pattern is and what aspects of a car are most important to you. It's harder to compare fuel cost and efficiency now that plugin hybrids give us cars with 2 different energy sources (grid power & gasoline). The PiP or the Volt can be a good choice in the right circumstances.

 

Just saw an article in the L.A. Times, Fiat e models in California, $999 down, $199 a month for a 36 month lease, tempting, I can afford it, but am I dumb enough to jump on it?