1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Prius Engine 4 Engine Battery?

Discussion in 'Newbie Forum' started by fobber, Oct 18, 2012.

  1. fobber

    fobber Junior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2012
    32
    0
    0
    Location:
    So Cal
    Vehicle:
    2013 Prius
    Model:
    III
    Hi all,

    new here. I heard that the newer Prius models uses a 4 battery engine, meaning, if one of the battery fails, 3 are still working, and need to only replace the 1 failed battery. I tried to looked it up online but could not find any truth behind that statement.

    Can anyone verify this? A link to support it would be very helpful. Also by any chance, starting what model uses this 4 battery engine.

    Thanks,
     
  2. cwerdna

    cwerdna Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2005
    12,544
    2,123
    1
    Location:
    SF Bay Area, CA
    Vehicle:
    2006 Prius
    No idea what you're talking about.

    Source of what you're talking about? What do you mean by "4 battery engine"?
     
  3. JimboPalmer

    JimboPalmer Tsar of all the Rushers

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2009
    12,470
    6,868
    2
    Location:
    Greenwood MS USA
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius v wagon
    Model:
    Three
    The Prototype Plug-ins had an odd battery that recharged in fourths, I think. That setup never made it to production, so I am not sure you could have replaced just 1/4 usefully. (You can replace individual cells, but balancing new with old becomes tricky)

    It is fortunate that the HV Battery is very durable and we don't need to mess with it.
     
  4. cwerdna

    cwerdna Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2005
    12,544
    2,123
    1
    Location:
    SF Bay Area, CA
    Vehicle:
    2006 Prius
    JimboPalmer likes this.
  5. JimboPalmer

    JimboPalmer Tsar of all the Rushers

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2009
    12,470
    6,868
    2
    Location:
    Greenwood MS USA
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius v wagon
    Model:
    Three
    That is what I was (dimly) remembering, it is not how any production Prius works.

    Another possible garble, which also involves 3 batteries, is that you have an HV Battery, a 12 volt battery and a Fob battery, all of which need to work.
     
  6. fobber

    fobber Junior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2012
    32
    0
    0
    Location:
    So Cal
    Vehicle:
    2013 Prius
    Model:
    III
    Maybe 4 battery was not the correct term, I think it is called similar to 4 cells, 4 battery cell? Forgive my lack of knowledge, as I tried to search it online and stumble on to this forum.
     
  7. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    109,027
    49,543
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    the prius has only one hybrid (motive) battery, made up of many small cells (hundreds). if it fails, you have to replace the whole thing unless you are very good at disassembling the pack, finding the bad cell, replacing it and balancing with all the others. not for your average diyer. fortunately, it warranted for 100,000 miles and 150,000 in carb states. and most last much longer.
     
  8. cwerdna

    cwerdna Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2005
    12,544
    2,123
    1
    Location:
    SF Bay Area, CA
    Vehicle:
    2006 Prius
  9. Braddles.au

    Braddles.au DEFAnitely using an EBH

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2012
    295
    99
    1
    Location:
    Canberra, Australia
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    Hi Fobber.
    Current figures in USA suggest 500 batteries per month are replaced. But remember, this includes Prius models from 2000 and since there's a 100-150,000 mile warranty, a lot of these batteries are replaced for free. Generally the battery doesn't just die; there's enough warning to replace it get it checked at the next service and then decide what to do.

    The battery is managed in such a way that it is never fully charged nor discharged. Depending on the model, you are using up to 80% and down to 40% of the battery capacity. Using this range means that the battery can cycle up and down for 8 years and 160,000km without loss of capacity. That's also why it is NiMH and not something more exotic.
    Around the world there have been several taxis with 500,000km on the original battery. One taxi in Cairns, Australia had a pack replaced at 300,000km as a precaution and I think that this was the first battery Toyota Australia had replaced.

    Toyota recycles old batteries. They don't throw the old battery into the river... upstream from an orphanage... that is run by kittens. There's a lot of value in an old battery even if there's not much spark left.
    Life After Death: What Happens When Your Prius Battery Dies
    http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120102/RETAIL07/301029980/1147

    Oh, you will replace a Prius battery quite regularly: the 12 volt battery only lasts about 3 years or less in cold climates.
     
    cwerdna likes this.
  10. fobber

    fobber Junior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2012
    32
    0
    0
    Location:
    So Cal
    Vehicle:
    2013 Prius
    Model:
    III
    Thanks guys for giving me some helpful insight.