Ron Paul - on the rise?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TimBikes @ Nov 7 2007, 03:00 AM) [snapback]536014[/snapback]</div>

Hes a Republican against the Iraq war.
Beyond that hes a fascist(libertarian).
Meaning he supports no government regulations for corporations and no government benefit for citizens.
Eliminate Social Security for starters.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mojo @ Nov 7 2007, 02:20 AM) [snapback]536025[/snapback]</div>

You are correct on the first point.

You are incorrect on the second point. Libertarians are essentially the exact opposite of Fascist.

Libertarians are also opposed to regulation of citizens (Patriot Act, etc) and government benefits for corporations (Blackwater, oil companies, etc).

 

OK, Libertarians promote corporatism.
No regulation for corporations means rule by corporations.

Mussolini: "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power."

 

For those of you who would actually like to find out a bit more about Ron Paul and his campaign, here is a link to a great video that briefly addresses a lot of what he is talking about: http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?d...0067898&hl=

The video is a bit lengthly (about an hour long), but well worth the time.

Please do the research yourself before passing judgment. Try not to base your opinions from those who believe fascism and libertarianism are one and the same. Ron Paul is a great man with unmatched character.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(steve-o @ Nov 8 2007, 01:34 AM) [snapback]536620[/snapback]</div>

I bet he wont tell you about how he wants free reign for corporations.Or how he will eliminate any government social programs that benefit citizens.Dept of Education,Dept of Labor Social Security ,Medicare etc.
You better do some more investigating before you support him because he wont come out directly and tell you what he really stands for and Ron Paul probably doesnt even realize the consequences of what he proposes.A corporate run state.



<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TimBikes @ Nov 8 2007, 01:44 AM) [snapback]536624[/snapback]</div>

Because I dont listen to their BS and think for myself.
If you totally eliminate corporate regulation.Corporations will very soon control government and all citizens. After they've robbed everyone blind of course.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TimBikes @ Nov 8 2007, 02:52 AM) [snapback]536643[/snapback]</div>

No they arent in favor of a corporate run state ,but they dont have the intelligence to realize that eliminating all regulations will make that outcome inevitable.

 

Campaign Fund Used To Test Stolen Credit Cards

(CBS 11 News) CROWLEY Officials say thieves used a presidential campaign to rip people off.

Christine Horton of Crowley said her account was charged several times to support Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul.

"I had never even heard of him," she said. "I was like, 'Oh my God! Someone is stealing from me."

Monday the Paul campaign made history. They raised more than $4 million online in 24 hours from more than 36,000 contributors.

Frost Bank investigators discovered overseas thieves used Paul's Web site to test stolen cards with $5 contributions.

Five hundred credit card numbers were stolen from Frost Bank, but fraud management teams spotted the unauthorized charges and notified customers immediately.

The bank refunded money from nearly 100 customers and canceled all 500 credit cards.

"He's getting money, stolen money," said Horton. "Whether he's affiliated with it or not, I have no clue. But it's too fishy."

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TimBikes @ Nov 8 2007, 03:05 AM) [snapback]536645[/snapback]</div>

Im not talking merger .Im taking about an inevitable coup by corporations if they have unchecked power.
Do you not agree we need environmental regulations ?
How about labor regulations or banking or securities trading,or product safety etc.
Libertarians will eliminate all regulations and let the free market police itself.Thats BS.
Corporations will rob us blind and literally rule.
Citizens need government to protect us from corporations .

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TJandGENESIS @ Nov 8 2007, 03:31 AM) [snapback]536651[/snapback]</div>

Really? Is that all you got? That one has already been used and is old news. Pretty much impossible to find anything negative about the man so (predictably) it gets made up. Good one.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(steve-o @ Nov 8 2007, 09:12 AM) [snapback]536688[/snapback]</div>

But it's not old. It was on the news like, two days ago. And it was on the local news here, not made up. So, deal with that. <_<

 

"overseas thieves"? How are they determining this, and why is a
site 100% concerned with domestic issues even allowing packets from
offshore networks to reach it in the first place? Sounds like
someone's IT department has a bit o' work to do.
.
_H*

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TJandGENESIS @ Nov 9 2007, 05:49 AM) [snapback]537172[/snapback]</div>

Oh, it was on the news? Well shoot, in that case it must be true...

 

How does anyone know this guy isn't a marketing puppet, carefully
constructed from the ground up to swing certain classes of votes?
.
_H*

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(hobbit @ Nov 9 2007, 10:10 AM) [snapback]537235[/snapback]</div>

Do yourself a favor and find out for yourself. It doesn't take long to learn what he is all about, i'm sure you are very familiar with Google. Educate yourself, and then once you have, make your own decision about who you think he is.

His positions and character have been rock steady for the last 30 years if not longer. That can not be said about any one else in Washington, let alone the other candidates. Regardless of your political views, you can not deny his integrity.

So yeah, to answer your question, anyone who has actually done their own research would probably agree that he is in fact, the real deal.

Here's a good start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul