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Russian and German scientists develop ‘sodium sandwich’ that could replace lithium batteries

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by SFO, Jul 17, 2020.

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    There is fundamental problem with sodium batteries:
    • atomic_weight - element
    • 6.94 - Li (520 kJ/mol)
    • 22.99 - Na (496 kJ/mol)
    • 39.10 - K (419 kJ/mol)
    • 85.47 - Rb (403 jK/mol)
    • 132.91 - Cs (376 kJ/mol)
    • 223 - Fr (393 kJ/mol)
    Sodium has 3x the mass per mole of lithium and less ionization energy. For stationary applications, weight does not matter. But for transportation, weight and the ionization energy are critical.

    I used to follow GreenCarCongress until I realized they often did a cut-and-paste from a press release into an article. I did a quick Google search for "sodium battery greencarcongress" and found a lot of hits going back over a decade. We call higher weight and lower energy a 'dead end' for transportation. As a stationary application, no problem.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    Leadfoot J. McCoalroller Senior Member

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    Keep an open mind, maybe the cars of the future won't need to move as much.
     
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    ALL "batteries" are "sandwiches" of one style or another.

    And elemental sodium tends to EXPLODE when exposed to air and/or moisture at room temperature.