SafetySense 3.0 Icon/Acronym "Cheat Sheet"

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  1. Bechi

    Bechi Junior Member

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    Well, I'm still waiting for the registration and plates to be finalized so I can pick up my new AWD Limited, so in the meantime I put together a "cheat sheet" for myself to get up to speed on all of the new fancy icons and acronyms that have me singing "Old MacDonald". I'm throwing this out to the group in case anyone finds themselves as baffled as I am and may find this of use.

    Bechi
    with a LTA here and a LDA there, here a BSM, there a PCS, everywhere a PCS, E-I-E-I-O!
     

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  2. BiomedO1

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    You may want to look at and adjust settings of the PCS. I've got the previous generation and I can tell you from experience - it almost gave me a heart attack when it first activated - mine doesn't automatically brake. My entire panel turned RED and BRAKE was displayed. I was in the right lane and the car in front was turning-off into a parking lot. I guess I was closing on the car making the turn too fast - I had a good 5-6 car lengths. Didn't touch my brakes, because the warning startled me. The car in front cleared my path and I cruised by.
    I've tripped that alarm about every 6 months, so it no longer startles me.

    Hope this helps....

    PS; add PDA to the list; predictive driver assist.
     
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    Thank you Biomed01! I will double-check PCS, and add PDA. Since I haven't taken delivery of the car yet, I'm going by the Owner's Manual I downloaded (hence the page references).
     
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    So you've managed to hit something without it braking? o_O
     
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    I haven't HIT anything! I'm saying the software and sensors aren't all that great and people who rely on them are going to have a rude awaking when something actually does happen. They're going to blame the car, but it's really the driver's fault for NOT paying proper attention. These gadgets are nice, but the drivers' ultimately responsible......
     
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    Even though I come up the street with the car on it’s own pwr
    I don’t know who was guicker me or Xse which almost knocked a kid off his bike
    Comes out from between the houses didn’t look right I was there
    Parents thank me but they haven’t learned to slow down on the street I am on
    Safety Sense Systems works quite well on Xse
     
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    I don't believe current technology supports a side scan of something entering your pathway perpendicular to your drive path. That's something YOU should've caught. As stated earlier, the driver (pilot) is ultimately responsible - NOT the car. I commend you for driving at a safe speed though the neighborhood. We had to petition the city to install speed bumps to slow people down. Drivers don't "short-cut" through our neighborhood any more. Neighbors park their cars in front or behind those speed bumps to prevent cars from going around them.
     
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    My point is that you can't say that yours "doesn't automatically brake" if you haven't been a situation where you were actually going to hit anything.

    Stage one of the system in a risk of a collision is the warning you got. Stage two is it actually braking itself.
     
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    Yep. I've had both the warning and the actual braking in different situations. I've gotten just the warning both at speed(highway) and during slow(parking lot/traffic jam). I've gotten actual braking once or twice while backing out in a parking lot and a vehicle or person came out of a blind spot while I was in reverse. I was creeping out because of lack of visibility in every one of those cases, so it wasn't a very hard stop.
     
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    If you read the manual, you'll see that is a function of the current system, although it won't be as capable as something directly ahead.

    Capability depends on whether you have the front side radar or not. (I believe in the US plug-ins do, non plug-ins don't, except for Hammersmith's upgraded one when/if he gets Techstream working).

    Manual says:

    Intersection collision avoidance support (crossing vehicles)

    Detects: Vehicles, motorcycles:
    Vehicle speed: Approximately 5-60 km/h (3-38 mph)
    Crossing vehicle speed: Your speed or less; and approximately 40 km/h (25 mph) or less if no front side radar, or 50 km/h (31 mph) or less if with side radar
    Relative speed between vehicles: Approximately 5-60 km/h (3-38 mph)​

    There's also support for catching you turning into the path of vehicles, pedestrians or cyclists.
     
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    From Toyota TSS 2.0
    When the brakes are applied too softly by the driver, the system may automatically apply more braking pressure. If the driver ignores the warnings, the system might also automatically apply the brakes.
    You can go ahead and try to run your car into a wall to test this, but I'm not going to. You probably have a more advanced version of TSS; again I'm not going to try to test it.

    I read on this blog, about a year or two ago when someone wasn't paying attention and was whining how she rear-ended someone and TSS didn't apply the brakes. These cars are NOT autonomous drive!!!!

    YMMV