SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

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    no, but the who, cdc and majority of researchers think it is important for the future. only china defenders try to obfuscate the issue.
    it's a moot point though, china is never going to let investigators in carte blanche, they have too much to hide.
     
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    flu shot coming up, then hope for the best. i'm still not going inside anywhere with strangers if i can help it.
    hopefully, the only virus i get will be on the computer.
    i notice all my docs and dentists have a machine in every examination room. good to know they work. so far, so good.
     
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    Sorry, I was not aware that there is a “China grenome” or a China protein that effects the CIVID-19 virus behavior. For example, some claim the reason Germany lacked an atomic bomb was the absence of Jewish scientists. Pursuing Chinese instead of concentrating on CRONA-19 is the same race based waste of time and resources …

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    okay, you'll have to take it up with who, maybe they have ulterior motives.

    but to clarify, i'm not sure how not looking for the source and beginnings of the virus helps us concentrate on CORONA-19, and i'm not sure why you consider looking intoa country of origin as 'race based'.

    wasn't it your own joe biden who demanded a thorough investigation and report?
     
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    I can’t take it up with a former President and his party?

    As for WHO, I really don’t follow them closer than the NIH, CDC, and academic researchers. To be perfectly blunt, WHO cares?

    I’ve always seen WHO as a medical distributor versus research. Give them medical supplies and they will be delivered. Of course your mileage may differ.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    i had a marine for a business partner for 30 years. i learned early on when to stop arguing :cool:
     
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    All is good. I know some want to find someone to blame instead of concentrating on what we need to do today. Focus on today’s goals and I am with you. Like Jesus said,’Let the dead bury the dead.’ We the living have more important priorities.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    Will this lead to ‘chickenpox parties’ for COVID-19?

    Get your vaccination and then expose yourself to an active COVID patient. Suffer the hopefully mild breakthrough infection and … belt and suspenders medicine. <YECK>

    Bob Wilson
     
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    Don't care.
    I'm vaccinated AND have wild-caught antibodies.
    Mandate them too....
    True or False? DeSantis Says COVID Is a Lower Risk for School-Aged Kids Than Flu. | HealthLeaders Media

    https://www.iwf.org/2021/09/23/fact-check-dr-fauci-claims-weve-lost-more-kids-from-covid-19-than-the-flu/

    COVID-19 vs. the Flu | Johns Hopkins Medicine

     
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    Sweden, Denmark pause Moderna COVID-19 vaccine for younger age groups | Reuters


    (MY Contextual addition: This is mostly for the under-30 crowd where there's an apparent crossover of risk from the Rona TO the Moderna shot. The difference between the 2 MmRNA foruula?? TBD.....BUT....government funded news says that Moderna's shot contains 100 micrograms of vaccine, more than three times the 30 micrograms in the Pfizer shot. And Pfizer's two doses are given three weeks apart, while Moderna's two-shot regimen is administered with a four-week gap)

    No words on Moderna or Pfizer's financial ties with Alphabet or Government funded news.

    Meanwhile....
    Covid-19 News: Israel, a World Leader in Vaccinations, Faces a New Outbreak - The New York Times

    Kid shots - from across the pond
    Covid vaccines for 12 to 15-year-olds: What we know so far - BBC News

    "Science and data......"
     
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    red sox pitcher eduardo rodriguez got myocarditis from covid last spring, and more than a year later, he still can't pitch.
    it's pick your poison, or, how do you like your chances punk?
     
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    Another reason to get your flu shot:

    Observation studies have shown:
    • The odds of testing positive for COVID-19 was reduced in patients who received an influenza vaccine compared to those who did not by 24%.
    • Vaccinated patients testing positive for COVID-19 were less likely to require hospitalization or mechanical ventilation and had a shorter hospital length of stay.
    Another study with similar conclusions.

    Observational studies don't prove cause and effect, but suggest the possibility that a flu shot may provide some protection.
     
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    i'm not big at looking at one country for local prognostications, too many variables.

    read a nice article in the atlantic yesterday. said we are at herd immunity in the usa (local hot spots none the less)
    and we should be heading towards a flu like scenario, barring a more virulent strain, or even something like the common cold.
     
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    One of the defense's 'closing arguments."

    https://www.cell.com/cell/pdf/S0092-8674(21)00991-0.pdf
    .....Phrase that pays......

    ".......As for the vast majority of human viruses, the most parsimonious explanation for the origin of SARS-CoV-2 is a zoonotic event."


    Me?
    Sounds like....
    If it don't fit, you must acquit.

    But then....I was one of those racists that thought that "OJ did it..."

    YMMV.
     
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    we'll never know, and i'm sure there's a lot worse going on in china and elsewhere. probably even here
     
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    I've always thought that it was a false dichotomy. 'Either it is zootonic or it escaped from the lab.' Why not both? Certainly they were studying coronaviruses in the lab at Wuhan, the town where the initial outbreak is thought to have taken place. Also, the bats thought to be the source live 1000 miles from Wuhan, but were being studied in this lab. If so, it would be an accident, not a crime. There have been virus escapes from BSL-4 level labs elsewhere in the world. To me it is like when Martha Stewart went to prison, not for insider trading, but for covering it up and lying to the FBI. Whether or not there was a lab leak, there's not much question that China is impeding any and all investigation into the lab.
     
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