SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

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  1. fuzzy1

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    Close, by one source. But I thought I'd been reading a significantly higher figure somewhere.

    Wikipedia suggests 2600.
    But it also indicates to expect that class of ship to have 508 officers, 3789 enlisted. ;)
     
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    According to various news media I read, more than 5000 on board at the time of outbreak. ~4000 evacuated since and ~1000 remained on board.

    Sailor aboard USS Theodore Roosevelt dies of coronavirus - CNNPolitics
    More than 4,000 sailors have since been evacuated and moved ashore in Guam. Sailors who have tested negative for the coronavirus are being housed in isolation in local area hotels.

    The Navy says it is required to keep about 1,000 sailors aboard the vessel to perform key functions such as the operation of the ship's nuclear reactors.

    There's 5,000 sailors on a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier.

    Nearly 3,000 US service members have tested positive for coronavirus, two service members have died.​
     
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    According to wiki china ranks 28th in the world for cell phone adoption, with about 50% having them. Not sure if that's for overall population or adult population.

    Maybe being jobless and locked down for over two months is a factor?
     
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    TR's Ship's population depends on whether the aircrew is embarked, and there are always a handful of civies onboard...from tech reps to embedded journalists...and when the CODs are flying the number of souls on board fluctuates.
    Probably better expressed as "Squids on board" for the atheists.

    They probably still call the trash-haulers 'CODs' whether they're using the Ospreys or the Greyhounds but I'm not up on that.

    The boat itself usually has something like 3200 squids plus embarked airdales.
    While it's welded to the pier they only have to keep the lights on, guard stuff like the reactors and munitions, and keep the curious off the brow...along with peeps involved in whatever cleanup efforts are underway.
    Me?
    I'd empty the ship and go 'cold iron' for 2 weeks and post marines on the pier, and let tropical environment do a lot of the work for me, but I topped out as a chief, and they're not asking me.

    A few questions still bother me....

    TR caught liberty in Da Nang on the 5th of March....AND she took one of her escorts WITH her.....Bunker Hill (a Tyco with 320 SOB)
    --Where did the other strike group wessels pull in?
    --Why were there no Bunker Hill sailors on the binnacle list???
    --Who was the Strike Group commander for TR's group?

    Is Veet Nam getting the wrap for a bug that came onboard TR from an aircraft???

    The current 'acting' skipper WAS Carlos A. Sardiello the last time I heard....but I ALSO heard that this was his second time as TR's 'acting' CO.....that seems a little ...."odd" to me.

    Data...data...data.
     
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    NIH is enrolling 10000 volunteers who is healthy without COVID-19 symptoms into a study to the "serosurvey" antibody test to determine extent of SARS-CoV-2 infection in general population. You should hurry if you want to enroll. I am sure it will be filled very quickly.
    • To participate, volunteers must be over the age of 18 and living in the United States. Volunteers must be willing to complete a verbal telephone consent, undergo one blood draw or at-home blood collection and have blood samples stored for future research.
    • People with laboratory-confirmed history of COVID-19 or current symptoms consistent with COVID-19 are not be eligible for the study. Individuals who suspect they have recovered from COVID-19, but never accessed laboratory testing while ill are eligible. People who have never had symptoms consistent with COVID-19 also are eligible to participate.
    • Volunteers may enroll in the study up to four times no fewer than 30 days after previous enrollment.

    NIH begins study to quantify undetected cases of coronavirus infection | National Institutes of Health (NIH)
     
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    I'll wait for the movie.
     
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    Being ruled under the DOT...I may not have the option of waiting.
     
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    Accurate reporting of any activities inside of a communist country is always lackluster at best. Propaganda always wins out with optimistic estimates to Outsiders

    Wouldn't 21 million be somewhere between 2 to 3% of China's total population? Seems realistic to me.
     
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    Youngsters and especially electronic wiz owns 1 to 3 cellphones for their own purpose.
     
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    Rear Admiral Stuart Baker ?
     
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    Do I believe that China under-reported COVID-19 deaths? Yeah, as it seems likely all countries are under-reporting.

    Do I believe that the number is actually 21 million? No, as that is a shockingly large number of bodies.

    If true, it wouldn't be possible to hide everything and we would have corroborating evidence such as satellite images of mass graves (see Iran). Unless additional info supporting that number is provided, it is likely not to be a reliable indicator of China COVID-19 deaths.
     
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    Got it in one!
    That's him.

    Navy Secretary Thomas Modly has resigned, but we need to hear from Rear Adm. Stu Baker on Capt. Brett Crozier

    The above is from one of last week's fish wrappers.
    Brings up a few interesting points.
    Baker would have been hanging out in Flag Country---ACTUALLY ABOARD TR while all of this was going down.

    Interesting bio.....
    He's an airdale but not much of a ship driver.

    Carrier Strike Group Nine "officially" consists of 8 "ships" TR, Bunker Hill (CG-52) and Destroyer Squadron 23 (Don't look them up if you're a lib unless toy want to get triggered!) which itself consists of 6 'cans' or 'tin-cans' - Navy Slang for a DDG.

    Pro Tip:
    There's "usually" one or two "other" units in a Carrier Strike Group ;)

    That's 7,000 sailors...more or less.
    Why ONLY did TR get 'slimed?'

    DID the other ships go to Japan? Korea? the Nam?

    Data....data.....data
     
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    Intended this to appear in both discussion areas. Readers here will know this is not the first country 'called'.
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    By Gompertz (by golly), US new COVID-19 cases peaked on day 97 (April 6) with a predicted final case count of 1.027 million.

    I have waited to see enough downturn to agree with that. Let us treat fatalities in a 'glass 96% full' manner. Of those cases, 985,920 will recover.

    Gompertz predictions for other countries have been exceeded already and others seem likely to follow. But Task Force and CDC and others are also using mechanistic models and reaching similar conclusions. So it is likely, but comes with conditions.

    A large and unknown number of people in US and elsewhere do not have symptoms (yet) but apparently can redistribute virus. CryptoCovidians. Softening any area's physical distancing policies or border porosity policies can put the ball back in virus' court. Models would whir and click and deliver worse outcomes.

    US and France (probably other countries) are under pressure to 'open up'. This could be done without handing advantage back to virus, but (both kinds of) testing beyond scales yet seen seem required. That. or phenomenally good luck.

    ==
    Another part of website

    Corona virus

    Predicts global case totals 70.48 million and 68.39 million recoveries. Those predictions are being made long before peak new cases and thus with little confidence.
     
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    Source: Fact Check: New Data Does NOT Reveal That 21 Million Chinese Died Of Coronavirus | Lead Stories

    Even though the original link for the report is down, the archived item has gone viral. On April 13, 2020, the site republished the story using a different URL.

    The article has also been copied word-for-word by other sites, including one that only changed the name of the "author" from James Alami to Alavi.

    The original story mentioned that an intelligence report concluded that China has deliberately underreported the number of COVID-19 cases and deaths in the country. While it's true that a new report does suggest China's official figures are false, the News NT story incorrectly linked that reporting to a separate one about cellphone cancellations.

    The result is a sweeping assumption that misinterpreted why millions of cellphones were canceled.

    Several fact checkers have previously looked into rumors that suggested a drop of 21 million cellphone subscribers in China meant that China was significantly underreporting the COVID-19 death toll. The Associated Press called out this claim as false:
    . . .

    We know the Russians love to publish false stories and the more sensational, the more likely the vulnerable will be fooled to repeat. Please cite credible sources and better still, more than one.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    Why yes:
    Matthew 24:37-40
    37But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 38For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, 39and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 40Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. 41Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left.

    Luke 17:26-30
    26And as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man: 27They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. 28Likewise as it was also in the days of Lot: They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; 29but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. 30Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.

    This time no rainbow.
     
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    Thanks, I sent my volunteer e-mail.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    Never said it was gospel.
     
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