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Should "Pot" Be Legalized?

Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by Mystery Squid, Feb 7, 2006.

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  1. Yes, no conditions, should be just like cigarettes

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  2. Yes, with conditions (please state them)

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  3. Yes, ALL drugs should be legalized and regulated

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  4. No

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  5. Not really sure, but leaning towards some degree of legalization

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  6. Not really sure, but leaning towards non-legalization

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  1. Mystery Squid

    Mystery Squid Junior Member

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    I've never done it, but most certainly know people who have, I voted "No", as there is no need for another "risk pool" to deal with.

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    The fact it is illegal is a deterrent for many people. I don't see any upside in making it legal other than taxes could be collected on it. I have always felt the increase in usage and subsequent social problems from legalization would far outweigh the amount of tax collected. Overall, legalization is a terrible idea and would only lead the Us further down the path of a broken down social structure and closer to anarchy.

    I am guessing that by the end of the day the poll will show a majority of PC favors legalization. :(
     
  3. efusco

    efusco Moderator Emeritus
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    I've got a real mix of emotions on this issue. I voted "No" mostly b/c I look at the problems with regular cigarettes.

    I don't think marijuana should be any less legal than tobacco cigarettes, but I also don't think tobacco should be as readily accessible and cheap as it is.

    If cigarettes were more like fine cigars or fine liquor it would become something more of a luxury. Something to be enjoyed after a nice meal or to share over conversation with a close friend.

    As it is it's an addictive drug sold cheaply to the masses in order to better facilitate addicting as many people as possible. The those 'addicts' vehemently defend their "right" to choose to smoke tobacco, oblivious to the way they were led into their addiction.

    And the ultimate result is widespread health problems with coronary artery disease, cerebrovascular disease, oral and lung cancer, pulmonary disease both to the smoker and second hand exposure victims. And the cost of that is directly or indirectly paid for by everyone else. Clearly, if tobacco were an occasional use or special occasion use product the incidence of disease and abuse would be much smaller and the cost to our society much less both in terms of financial cost and health/disease cost.
     
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    I voted yes with conditions:

    Hemp is a most-versatile plant, hardy, very easy to grow with minimal toxic pesticides/pollutants. Everything we know of can be made using hemp. Our constitution is written on hemp. Sails of the ships that sailed from Europe were made from hemp. Ropes, clothes, yes, even medicines...not just the 'pot' medicine. Big Cotton has somehow got the better deals and hemp has been sidelined. I know farmers in my state would love a crop of hemp that is easier to grow thru all conditions.
     
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    one one hand, for the correct age group it does provide analgesia and some studies have been investigating the benefits of it as therapy in multiple sclerosis and it appears to be very good in posttraumatic stress disorder. the degree of beneficial analgesia and/or health benefits in specific conditions are questionable.

    however, it does have permanent negative effects if used during adolescence. excessive use during adulthood, while in whole not good for you, does not do long term damage.

    but children get mostly beneficial effects (antiemetic, analgesic) without the psychotropic side effects.

    distributing it as a prescription drug would not deter people from continuing to illegally distribute it, as there's a black market for prescription drugs anyway. making it legal would probably encourage recreational use which we do not need. so there's a delicate balance that needs to be achieved.

    i'd say overall we don't need to legalize pot. should THC be proven without a doubt to be the best treatment for a disease, sure. legalize it for the express purpose of that disease. but it's going to take a lot to prove to anyone that THC is the best treatment for anything. there are always other effective drugs, and many people will just be looking for an excuse to smoke pot legally anyway.
     
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    Poll is missing options for decriminalization.
     
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    Idiotic poll for priuschat!
     
  8. Mystery Squid

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    I think what I find most interesting, is why exactly people seem to look to an external, physical, entity of sorts to "relax". I guess it's far easier to pick up a cigarette or shot glass than it is to just sit back, and "relax"... It's kind of ridiculous actually, "I need to relax, so, I know, let me inhale and exhale smoke..." Wth??? :lol:

    I think I tend to agree with Evan on the cigarette thing, they should be luxury items, I would suggest they cost $150 per pack... Likewise with booze... However, it seems like most people need some sort of "escape", as look at what happened during prohibition...
     
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    All Cannabis is contaminated with Aspergillus fungi. With all the known problems with tobacco, seems bizarre to authorize Cannabis for smoking. No rational person will knowingly innoculate their lungs with fungus. However, Cannabis, with standard amounts of THC (tetrahydrocannabinol) should be available by prescription through the local pharmacy.

    There are three species: C. sativa (cultivated for THC), C. indica (primarily used for hemp, paper and cloth) and C. ruderalis (small, highly resinous, used to make hash oil). Hibiscus canabinum is also used to make hemp. There are several alternatives that don't involve using the plants for psychoactive purposes. These alternatives have been discussed in detail in the Journal of Economic Botany.
     
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    Holy Crap, archive the thread, call the press, check to see if MS has been smoking pot...this's gotta be a first! :blink: :lol:
     
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    Oh wow, man. Hey Squidley, want some of my tots? They're really good after copin' a buzz. B)
     
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    FHOP is not required reading. Did you vote? :)
     
  13. Mystery Squid

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    Wth are "tots"?

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    tater tots. Watch Napoleon Dynamite. "Hey Napoleon, give me some of your tots."
     
  16. Mystery Squid

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    Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.... I haven't had those since I was in third grade! :lol:

    Seriously...
     
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    Believe it or not....I vote yes w/ conditions...condityions are no selling, personal growth and use only
     
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    I don't believe that I've ever had them. My parents didn't believe is feeding us crap like tater tots. :D
     
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    I have a hard time understanding why marijuana isn't legal when cigarettes and alcohol are. I think that marijuana would be / is no more destructive to society than either of our popular legal drugs. I don't actually think we should have any laws against so-called 'victimless crimes' - I'd rather 'sin-tax' the hell out of all of it. Make it a luxury - I like the idea =)
     
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    Make tobacco and alcohol illegal first and see how fast those chuckleheads in D.C. suddenly make them all legal. :D