Strange happenings: Dead, blinking panel, and triangle

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by Kelli Ann, Jun 25, 2019.

  1. Kelli Ann

    Kelli Ann Junior Member

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    Hello my Prius People,

    I need some input as my 2008 Prius (106K miles) may have to go into the shop (TampaHybrids, cheaper than Clearwater or Autonation Toyota locally).

    For the last few weeks, I have been watching the Consumption screen as the MPG has gone way down. I have checked it with and without the AC on, still low MPG. The car starts a trip with 4 to 5 dark blue lines, but when I get to the first stop sign or light, it shows 2 purple lines but it does recover with a bit of driving (was wondering about the hybrid system).

    This past Sunday, I turned on the car, and used a plug in air pump to help my son with his van. I turned off the car, by hitting the start button and went inside. About an hour later, the smart key wouldn't open the car (did I put it an aux mode and drain it was a thought - as I have killed the 12v previously). I hit the fob several times and beep was not loud and the car would not unlock. I used the hidden key to open the car. Tried to start it and nothing. Held down the start with foot on the brakes and ALL lights came up, including triange. Held the Start down again and the squares showing Drive and Reverse Blinked strangely and blanked out, leaving the boxes. Held down the start again to make sure it would go off and it did. I went and got my spare fob. It opened, and it started. I ran it around the block but after backing out of the driveway, and putting it in Drive - I got the Triangle but it went away as I drove forward. I turned off the lights (as I tend to leave them on) and drive it around the block daily, as I don't have errands and have some concerns. It now starts up, and the fob works the doors, but as I put it in Drive, I do get the Triangle but it goes aways. Consumption lines are still doing the same (start with 3 - 5 dark blue lines - goes to 2 purple and then recovers).

    Am I dealing with a weakening Hybrid system? All I have learned from this group and articles seem to be pointing that direction.

    I do have an Extended warranty for one more year - so I'm covered, just concerned.

    As TampaHybrids seems to be open on Mon/Thurs/Fri only currently, I have to work with Family and Friends in this adventure.
     
  2. Salamander_King

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    Sorry for the mishap. I don't have much helping advise for you, but you might get more help if you list this under Gen2 forum. You have listed it under PRIME. Good luck.
     
  3. Kelli Ann

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    Strange I started writing this from the gen too maintenance board. I will try to change.

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    It’s possible you ran the 12v battery down and that’s your problem. A drive around the block won’t recharge the 12v. It takes many hours because of the type of battery it is. You can check the battery voltage yourself with no tools. Just search the site here and find out how to check the voltage using the MFD. just remember to let the car sit for a few hours and DON’T start it first.
     
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    I didnt think it was in auxillary mode as I have already killed a 12v since I got the car in 2016. I did leave it alone for a bit. It is starting daily now.

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    check the 12v, fob batteries and oil level
     
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    Yes but you stated your son was using a tire pump plugged into your car. It might(?) have pulled out more power than the system could replace.
     
  8. Kelli Ann

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    oh I see. I've used a tire pump (in cigarette lighter) before, and never had it lose all power. But If I left it in Aux mode by accident, I could see where it would drain. Just Strange.

    Thank you ALL for the input. I enjoy this car alot. It needs an AC, which is covered and will get done in the next month...but I had never see it blink, blank P/R/D/B boxes...so weird.
     
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    Yes your in the early stages of hybrid battery failure. Its been 11 years.

    You can buy a prolong hybrid battery charging system and that will get you another year or 2 out of it. I am on my 18 month of prolong rejuvenation. It works pretty good. But you must start rejuvenating before the battery throws an failure codes. Tick Tock.

    But at the least buy a 12 volt battery charger. Every car owner should have one. It can show you if the 12 volt battery is getting ready to go by by and extend its life by maintenance charging. Driving around the block does nothing for the 12 volt battery.

    Btw, I talked to Todd at tampahybrids the other day and they will install a brand new factory hybrid battery for $2500.
     
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    With 1 yr left on my extended warranty I would rather it fail now and not this time nxt yr. Yes I do need a charger too. Thank you.

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    What kind of extended warranty do you have? Who wrote it?

    They rarely cover the hybrid battery rarely cover anything "Hybrid".
     
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    Better question is, what was the cost of that dealer driven profit plan?

    A new OEM HV battery seems to range $1600-$2000. I hope that extended insurance was <$300.
     
  13. Kelli Ann

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    Well what do you know, I was lied to by a salesman. $1400 for an extended warranty and you all are right - no coverage for the battery pack. But $1600 AC is covered.
    As I have a bit more to pay on the car I will be looking at pack replacement. Running over to TampaHybrids next week, thanks to work schedule. I'll keep all in the loop. Anyone help with a low interest loan (har har). Kidding. MPG isn't getting above 34 where I was 42. So it begins....Thank you again for this forum ( and to the Admin the moved my post to the right place)

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    The blinking symbols on the dash (D, R, N etc) are a dead giveaway that the 12v battery is practically dead. Speaking from experience. This is not guessing, this is not opinion, this is FACT. Start with that.
     
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    I talked to Todd about 2 weeks ago and they quoted $2500 for a brand new factory battery installed.
    You may get a better deal face to face with cash. I would not hesitate getting a battery from Todd.
    Since you still are paying off car he also sells rebuilt battery’s using G3 cells for a lot less.
    I would go with that.
     
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