Tesla S Best Selling Car In Norway For September

That's incredible...

 

Norway wants to make sure they have plenty of oil to sell to the rest of us for a long time to come. Pretty smart.

 

That's why they are also investing in thorium nukes.

 

So when we look at the Plug_In sales posted here every month, for Tesla are we just showing US sales or totals?

 

People, chill down, this is very misleading,

610 Teslas vs 1512 VW cars.
This is clearly a spin job, and most take it it a face value.

 

Oil. Check.
Natural gas. Check.
Hydroelectric power. Check.
Wind power. Check. (Development of 1.3GW was announced in August).
Thorium power. Check. (Research reactor.)

But I think it would good if they were working on energy efficiency as well.

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Our history and our mission - Enova

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Its actually quite astounding that an expensive car in Norway is the best selling model and has 5.1% of the market. It is a much smaller market than the US, but the best selling green car in America, the prius liftback costs much less but only has 1.1% of the US market (august). The best selling vehicle in the US in august the f150 had 4.7% market share.

 

They are US sales, and they are manufacturing constrained. Tesla can't get enough parts from suppliers to expand production this year, but will next year, which is when we should see full sales not restrained by production.

Tesla only reports sales quarterly, which means the sales reported on dashboard and insideev are guesses. Insideev had a very accurate guess, IIRC right at the correct number last quarter.

 

616? Wth??? Could these September figures be skewed hugely upward due to a lump sum delivery of the model S to Norway and also delivered to the final customers within a thin timeframe (um, like September)? What were the previous 6 months sales of the S in Norway?

EDIT: Gotta be this ^. Total S sales in the US in September was 1,000 units.

 

There could certainly be an anomaly, but due to government incentives for EV's, meaning they are exempt from import duties and VAT, EV's are ridiculously cheap in Norway. The Model S, for example starts at 469000K. A GTI starts at 479000K. They are probably selling every Model S they can get into the country.

 

Tesla Model S was just released in Norway in August, numbers are high because of initial orders maybe?

Why Tesla is focused on oil-rich Norway as it expands beyond the US – Quartz

 

Norway was the biggest customer outside the US for the tesla roadster.

The Tesla S just started shipping to europe, and are production constrained. We should wait a year, until production is up to see how big of a market share the tesla S will be. In denmark pre-orders of the bmw i3 were huge. Scandinavia with their tax structure and attitudes, may have very high plug-in penetration. Long distance trips are typically done by train, plane, or boat and not driving, so one of the main drawbacks in the US isn't a problem there.

 

Under current exchange that is still $78,700 for the Tesla S, (0.17$/krone), I would not call that ridiculously cheap as it is more expensive than in the US (assuming your figure is for the 60kwh after tax credits). Other vehicles are taxed more though, which makes buying a new gas guzzler very expensive. There were 1000 pre-orders last december, we won't know how many plug-in cars norweigans actually want to buy for a year when supply constrainst of the tesla S and bmw i3 are resolved and the tesla S awd and tesla x should be shipping.

 

The raw amount may not appear ridiculously cheap, but in comparison to other cars in that market, it is. That's why I gave the price of a GTI as a comparison. A PIP is 337000K.

It's still not a 'cheap' car, but it's on-par with other low-mid-tier luxury cars which sell in the US in the $30-$45k range. And it's fast. Fast or sporty cars have historically been very expensive in Norway. The BRZ is 456000K.

 

Remeber unlike toyota, tesla does not hike the price of their cars when they sell them in Norway, they just include the cost of the extra transportation it takes to get it there. VW and Toyota do hike their prices because taxes are so high anyway, and sales volume is low.

There are many rich people in Norway that can afford a tesla S. Norway does drop taxes for the prius liftback(Denmark does not, only plug-ins), but when you are spending that extra money for a car, the lower taxes on plug-ins really do make them a better deal. Well don't include the prius phv, as toyota has set the price way too high to be competitive. Still the leaf, i3, etc get the same lower taxes. Pure gasoline cars like the gti pay the most taxes. In a country with only 5 million people, and a large government surplus they can do policies that tax gasoline burning cars and alcohol at large levels. A country like the US, with a much higher population and worse public transportation, can't do these policies (with as bad as congress acts its amazing we have any good policies at all).

 

Tax exemptions. Not only affecting the price of vehicle, but also tax exemptions for yearly registration too.

Another reason Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV has been sold out for months in Norway. Especially for a 4wd SUV that can do their winter's chores. Backlog so long that Mitsubishi decided to delay sale to US market (a possible loser in US market), and sell everyone at full price in Europe. Considering it is a much cheaper car ($5o,ooo US dollar) to buy than the Tesla S. No wonder they are flying off the shelf. Hmmm... let me see. VW GTI for $80k or this SUV for $50k.

 

^ Great article! This would never happen in the U.S., despite everything being mentioned makes perfect sense. Heck, here, many states place extra registration taxes on EV's and hybrids as if they were a disease, and not the cure.

 

Remember Norway has low population, about 5 million people, with good public transportation in the big city Oslo, and people traveleling on bigger vehicles (planes, trains, ships) for longer distances. With no major car companies, there are not major PACs for auto companies, union workers, and auto dealers to promote ice vehicles. We can't do this in the US, and indeed the policies are probably bad for the US (putting this in would greatly reduce auto sales leaving people to keep guzzlers longer).

Of the large population groups (EU27, Japan, China), the US does buy the most plug-ins. We have Mike Kelly with his individual crusade to kill plug-ins in congress (yes he was one of the leaders that is responsible for the shutdown, and he goes on tv on why the shut down is justified). I don't think the good us policies from the US to encourage efficient vehicles like an oil tax are politically viable this year.