Tesla stock

Discussion in 'Tesla' started by bwilson4web, Aug 6, 2018.

  1. William Redoubt

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    Mission accomplished. Off with their heads.
     
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    the king is dead, long live the king!
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    Mercedes still has a stake in Tesla, perhaps they are hoping to make a move, and use Tesla to match VW's investments.
     
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    Not impossible. Many have hoped a company like Apple would have acquired them years ago. Cash rich, new product/ideas poor marries cash poor, new product/ideas rich.

    Lots of theories why this did not happen then. Among them, Elon not keen on the idea.
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    Apple has money, but they have less experience building cars than Tesla at this time. What would they do, outsource it to Foxcon?
     
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    just keep building them as tesla is?

    my concern is that without musk, they will wither on the vine. tim cook is no elon musk. if steve were still there, maybe...
     
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    Buying Tesla brings the car building experience. Advantage here of not duplicating with a lot of overlap. Lots of good AI software collaboration to be had.

    With cash, expansion of existing Tesla manufacturing operation outside of congested Fremont facility (such as Reno) is probably best. Trade wars another reason not to outsource to the near abroad Foxconn region.
     
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    apple being so concentrated on profitable products and cash flow (hoard) perhaps cannot see the forest for the trees?
     
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    Technically that is true, but the consensus is that Elon was there from the beginning.

    Tesla Motors was founded by Eberhard and Tarpenning and Elon joined them within a year as the money man. Four years later, the Roadster was released. Both Eberhard and Tarpenning left around that time. The reason is unclear and subject to debate. in my opinion, it was probably because Elon is a control freak and difficult to work for, demanding the same dedication to work he demands for himself.

    Regardless, Elon is a visionary with the ability to bring his vision to reality.
     
  10. William Redoubt

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    Elon Musk < Tim Cook
    Consensus does not establish facts.
     
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    i can agree to disagree. musk is changing the world, cook is a professional marketer
     
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    I think Cook's expertise in supply chain and manufacturing. Tesla could use his help to lower cost/increase margins. And the marketing power of Apple is indisputable.
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    How, Exactly?
    As a businessperson?
    Intellectually?
    Urinates further?

    It's not quite an....."apples" to apples thing.
    Pun nearly unintended....

    One is using offshoring and near-slave labor practices to maximize profits for a company trying to figure out how to get millennials and middle aged technophobes to spent four figures on a new smart phone every two years.
    He's whiffed the drive on IOT and 'smart home' hubs, AND media and with the exception of a dalliance in medical and information his company is now the corporate equivalent of a Saudi oil billionaire trying to preserve earned capitol on a sun-setting technology.

    I haven't figured out whether their stuff is new wine in old bottles or old wine in new bottles, but even Apple fanboys are starting to admit that they're not quite out on the sharp end of the stick any more.
    However (comma!)
    Yeah.

    Cook is a much better CEO than Musk.
    Almost anybody would be.

    But(!)
    Like certain political figures, you have to give Musk due credit where he's earned it.
    He took a half a giga-buck of his own bucks and completely transformed two industries (three industries if you give him half credit each for solar and batteries and throw in the boring side-hustle)

    He's a bigger male appendage than Tim Cook's predecessor (and the unnamed political figure) but the comparason with Edison is more apt than many people realize....especially if you know much about Edison.

    Concur. :D
     
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    markabele owner of PiP, then Leaf, then Model 3

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    If this thing's going to zero, I'm buying all the way down. :)

    Someone with some actual intelligence tell me what has changed between now and when the stock was almost double what it is now. (I'll give you a hint...massively grown revenues, shown some real prowess on autonomy, and almost complete a gigafactory in a huge market that will leave them insulated from tariffs.)

    I applaud the market's irrationality. It has and will continue to make me a lot of money well into the future.
     
  16. William Redoubt

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    Lot's of buying opportunity. The stock is already down in pre-market by over 4 percent and still tanking.

    It's all about survival. Survival is about management. First-to-market companies often fail (see mp3 player history).
     
  17. ETC(SS)

    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    Beta was first!
    They transformed the industry!!

    Or.....as the old story goes, the early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese!! :D
     
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    Just crashed tru 200$, I hope no board members are recieving margin calls.
     
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    markabele owner of PiP, then Leaf, then Model 3

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    buying all the way down my friend...keep it coming!
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    I wonder what a post-bankrupt Tesla would look like?

    It only took ten months for Hostess Twinkies to start appearing on shelves again when they went TANGO-UNIFORM.
     
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