The Guardian's Top 10 Green cars....

I don't understand. When I look at the stats, the Prius has better mileage, fewer CO2 emissions and more boot space and yet they put the Honda first.

Not that the Honda is a bad car. In fact, it's great, but I don't understand the logic that caused this guy to put the Honda ahead of the Prius.

 

I agree, that's a little weird
Just forget for a moment that the Prius is more efficient, pollutes less, has more interior space, and earned a higher crash test rating than the HCH. The info is all right there!

Perhaps the Guardian had some criteria and awarded the HCH first place because it costs about 2000 pounds less and "holds its value better"....... come on!!!!

We have all seen the Prii on Ebay that had 15000 thousand miles on them and were being sold for the same price they were purchased at. Not to mention the 2001/3 models which held their value very well; I can attest to that.

The Prius costs more.... well duh! It has a lot more features than the HCH... Anyway enough of my ranting, the HCH is a fine car, but just not as fine as Prius IMHO :|

 

Just to correct a common misconception, this article tells us nothing about how clean the diesels are in comparison to the gasoline cars. The only pollutant listed is CO2, and the amount of CO2 produced by an internal combustion engine is directly proportional to its efficiency. It has nothing to do with what fuel it is burning. Diesels have always done well with regards to CO2 emmisions because they are efficient. However, they are very poor at nitrous oxide and hydrocarbon emmisions, which are what produces smog. Even very dirty diesels using old fashion un-clean diesel fuel produce low CO2 emissions.

 

The Civic costs £2500 less. That's the only logical explanation for the ranking. I'm a little surprised, especially as it's a saloon. Saloons are not popular in the UK - it's the only one on the list.

Conversely, maybe the fact the Prius was automatic counted against it.

And no, the Civic isn't as clean as the Prius on other emissions (CO, NOx etc).

On resale values, they appear to be basing it on the old Prius, but that doesn't seem a fair comparison.

 

Jonnycat,

You are correct, and I am in no way trying to imply that CO2 emissions are not important, just that they are directly proportional to efficiency. Thus you know relatively how much CO2 a vehicle will produce just by knowing its fuel economy. On the other hand, fuel economy tells you almost nothing about how clean a car is with respect to smog forming emissions (NOx, hydrocarbons and particulates). So to think that diesels cars are "clean" because they have low CO2 emissions is somewhat false. They are clean from the perspective of CO2, but they may be (and usually are) very dirty with respect to other types of emissions.

 

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KMO, most Americans think of bars and taverns when saloons are the topic.

3 entries found for saloon.

:rofl:

 

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....and those are popular just about everywhere. :lol: