1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Theft of valuables in Prius

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by nudriver, Dec 30, 2016.

  1. nudriver

    nudriver Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2012
    218
    26
    0
    Location:
    los angeles
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    Last night I discovered that the storage box next to the drivers seat had been looted. Fortunately I didn't have anything of great value in there, but there was no sign of forced entry and I can't imagine leaving my door unlocked. This happened on my driveway and I am wondering how easy it may be to pick the lock of the driver's door, the only one that has a key slot. Also, is there a lining inside the storage compartment? I can't remember but now it looks strange that the bolts are visible at the bottom of it.
     
  2. JC91006

    JC91006 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2013
    16,438
    8,372
    0
    Location:
    Los Angeles, CA
    Vehicle:
    2008 Prius
    Model:
    II
    Yes there's a lining.

    Yikes Los Angeles, my neck of the woods
     
  3. nudriver

    nudriver Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2012
    218
    26
    0
    Location:
    los angeles
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    What does the lining look like?
     
  4. fotomoto

    fotomoto Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2009
    5,593
    3,767
    0
    Location:
    So. Texas
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    The simplest answer is usually the correct one. BTDT and lost a cheap trac-fone.
     
  5. Kenny94945

    Kenny94945 Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2016
    751
    381
    0
    Location:
    Sausalito
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius v wagon
    Model:
    Four
    Only the driver door pocket ransacked?
    Not the glove box or center console?

    FWIW I venture to say you left unlocked or better half cleaned the car?
    Yet I guess it could have been picked, slim jim-med, etc, yet no alarm?

    Good luck in discovery of your mystery.
     
  6. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    107,360
    48,770
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    there are also thieves, especially in cali, who can use a machine to steal your fob code or something when you lock the car, then use it to unlock, after you go in the house.
     
  7. nudriver

    nudriver Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2012
    218
    26
    0
    Location:
    los angeles
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    It was actually the center console. Now I have discovered they stole a couple other items including my garage door opener! Someone must have remotely broken in. Why they picked my car I have no idea.
     
  8. Coast Cruiser

    Coast Cruiser Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2016
    2,267
    2,570
    0
    Location:
    Pacific Coast Highway
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    There was news reports on TV recently, about the 2017 Camry being easily unlocked by some type of remote device. Other cars as well. The criminals are always a step ahead in technology.

    Also, there have been several reports by Gen4 Prius owners finding their car unlocked. Myself included. It's a mystery. I'm positive I locked it, because I heard the beep. When I come out the next morning I find it unlocked.

    My 2016 Prius is more strange, odd, and weird than any other car I've ever owned. The only thing good about it is the gas mileage!
     
  9. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    107,360
    48,770
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    disable your garage door opener until you can change the code.
     
    Felt and The Electric Me like this.
  10. PriusNeckBeard

    PriusNeckBeard Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2016
    376
    211
    0
    Location:
    Cincinnati
    Vehicle:
    2013 Prius
    Model:
    One
    They can target you again.
    Why wouldn't they?

    Don't put anything of value in the car for three months, imo. Including the new garage door opener you'll be getting.

    Maybe put that under the front seat..
    Maybe.
     
  11. kenmce

    kenmce High Voltage Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2004
    1,501
    487
    0
    Location:
    NY
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    Limited
    A thin sheet of rubbery grey material. It just sits there.
     
  12. Rebound

    Rebound Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2010
    3,961
    2,607
    0
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    I hate to break it to you, but it's also possible that you forgot to lock the doors. If they'd hacked your locks, they could have driven away with the car. Very quietly, I might add.
     
  13. kbeck

    kbeck Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2010
    420
    274
    0
    Location:
    Metuchen, NJ
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    III
    Actually, the problem with the Prius keyfobs is well known.
    Setup: Your fob, somewhere within radio range. This mean within a couple of hundred years of your car.
    The crook: An nice person with a more or less standard thief box. Available on-line.
    What happens: The weak radio signal from the Prius is picked up by the thief box and rebroadcast at much higher power. This is picked up by the fob. It thinks it's close to the car (Big Signal!) and broadcasts the signal back to the car.
    Normally, this signal would be too weak, given the distance, to unlock the doors. However, the thief box has a second receiver/transmitter that is sensitive enough to pick up the fob signal and rebroadcast it to the car.
    Crook grabs the door handle: The car opens.

    This has been reported in the NY Times, where a reporter watched a pair of teens break into his locked car, out on the street, with his fob on the kitchen windowsill, where he kept it. He ran out the door, they noticed, and took off.

    My car's in my garage, so I don't worry about it too much. But street parking, at home or in a business district, can get one in trouble. At work, me and my fob are far enough away from the car so this trick won't work.

    Only known solution: Putting your fob in an electromagnetic enclosure. Little tin can, good ESD bag, etc. But then you have to take the fob out when you want to use it, which kind of wrecks the convenience.

    The car START button mechanism is supposedly different: I've heard of cars getting unlocked, but not driven away. Which would explain why your stuff was riffled through, but the car itself wasn't stolen.

    KBeck
     
  14. Vman455

    Vman455 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2014
    532
    547
    13
    Location:
    The Middle
    Vehicle:
    2013 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    Or, turn off the SKS, so the doors don't unlock without pressing the button on the fob.
     
  15. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk Patron saint of newly poured sidewalks

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    54,033
    37,894
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    I measured the centre console inlay on our 2010, made a sketch:

    upload_2017-1-3_10-47-11.png
    (There's an additional, large radius fillet at the shallow deflection along the sides, but just doing a sharp corner at the 2" mark produces about the same outline.
     

    Attached Files:

  16. PriusNeckBeard

    PriusNeckBeard Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2016
    376
    211
    0
    Location:
    Cincinnati
    Vehicle:
    2013 Prius
    Model:
    One
    Hey everybody
    True or not true?
     
  17. kbeck

    kbeck Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2010
    420
    274
    0
    Location:
    Metuchen, NJ
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    III
  18. ETC(SS)

    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2010
    7,624
    6,445
    0
    Location:
    Redneck Riviera (Gulf South)
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    It doesn't sound preposterous, but it does sound a little complicated when a slim-jim or just pulling on 100 door handles is much more effective.
    If I were the looters and hacked the FOB, I would have driven the car a few blocks away and taken my time and completely ransacked the car - or just stolen it outright.

    Look for scratches in the window gasket or admit to yourself that you might just have left the door open.
     
  19. BZzap!

    BZzap! Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2012
    1,607
    877
    0
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    My neighbor across the street had her car broken into just the other night. I should say, she had it illegally entered, as the doors were unlocked. The typical M.O. of the run of the mill tweeker is to just walk down the street and try door handles. It's always a good habit to physically check the doors to make certain they are locked. Just about everyone has inadvertently left their car unlocked at one time or another. Unfortunately, stealing other people's property is just a way of life for a large population of our society.
     
  20. The Electric Me

    The Electric Me Go Speed Go!

    Joined:
    May 22, 2009
    9,083
    5,793
    0
    Location:
    Undisclosed Location
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Prius She Wrote....
    We can debate forever "how" the crime happened...and we really won't know. Thieves can gain access in any manner from simply opening an unlocked door....to a uncountable number of more complicated maneuvers.

    But I strongly second the advice to disable your garage door until you get the code changed.
    Obviously people steal the remotes to gain access to your garage....and then you house.

    At this point securing everything else would be my #1 priority.