Tire Info from Michelin

Thank you for sharing this experience. Valuable information for those of us looking for tires!

 

Yes, thank you for posting this up. That is better than the info I got from them a month ago but the idea was the same. Just not as concise as yours.

 

Me too! Thank you for the info. I run MXV4+'s on our 2000 Avalon w/108K. Averaging around 40K miles a set. About time for next set. May 07 should be O.K. if I can find a set. I call in for the coupon tommorow.
Really, Thanks again for the heads up!:high5:

 

I just replaced my tires at the end of June with the Costco X-radial DT's. They seem to grip much better than the Integrities but I did take a 4 MPG hit initially but it's coming back up. Costco had the $60 off deal and they ended up costing $444 out the door for the set.

 

How does the ride compare to the OEM integrities? Is it better? The same? I've been thinking of making the same type of purchase as you just made.

 

wet muddy hooves on bananna peels would be an improvement over the std tire Goodyear.

 

btw, with the demise of the energy Michelin, what is the best tire made by anyone else now I wonder?

any other best LRR out there anymore?

 

Yes, Nokian i3 and WR series are considered LRR.

 

Great! Thanks for the input. I'd like to know how they feel and sound on the freeway as I deal with Los Angeles traffic every day.:frusty:

 

i've got a set of energy mxv4+ tires on my car, but i have to replace 2 of them. i'm looking at the primacy mxv4s as replacements. will let ya know how that goes when the deal goes down. i'm not paying for em, i have to wait for that to get sorted out first.

 

Hi Priusauris..,

New tires have a break-in just like machined parts. It will be 1000 miles plus before you can compare those to your old tires.

I am using hydroedges here. They are alright in snow, but nothing special. On wet pavement however, they are the best tires I have ever driven on. And people tend to no slowdown as much as they should in the wet around here. Where they do in icey and snowy conditions.

 

That's not QUITE correct: Michelin still makes Energy MXV4+ tires, just not in the smaller sizes.

I now have about 3K miles on my Primacys. I can't detect any milage hit (so far). Drove about 500 miles a couple of weeks ago in VERY heavy rain on I79, tires were very good. I found that (on dry pavement) that the tires were much more resposive (aka "twitchy") than the OEM tires. Ride is better, noise about the same (but comparing new Primacys to bald eagles isn't comparing apples to apples).

 

Quieter?? All those blind people will not jump out of your way! We need a federal law making all tires for hybrids twice as noisy!

 

205/55R16 seems to be the smallest MXV4+ at Michelin.com. You had me concerened at first. I've run them on the 2000 Avalon XLS since new and love them. Avg ~40K/set.

 

why does the tire only last 40K miles? or is this considered good for a LRR tire?

 

40K is not an absolute and I honestly don't know if they're concidered LRR. That's what we're averaging on our MXV4+'s, on our 2000 Avalon XLS. It's a heavy car and driving conditions requires alot of stopping and starting on hills and twisting winding roads as well as Expressway rush hour type traffic here around metro Atlanta. The MXV4+'s have a 400 treadwear rating and we love the handling and traction. We have 108K miles on the Avalon and are on the third set of MXV4+'s. They have a tread depth of 10/32", when new. The current depth is 6/32". That's about 4/32" wear for the ~28k miles on this set. I don't like to go below 4/32" although 2/32" is still legal. I just personally feel that the loss of traction in wet road conditions is not worth the extra mileage. That gives me another 14K or puts me right around 122K or roughly 42K for this set. Extended mileage on current set is probably due to smarter driving habits, with help of SGII, and increased psi, now running 42/40psi. And I can assure you that the improvement in mileage, on my tires, that I have experienced, over the years since a was 25, has a lot more to do with mental additude than in tire improvements. Below is an example of why I get new tires @ 4/32" over 2/32". A matter a choice.
Panic Stopping: How Much Tread Depth Do You Need?

 

My MXV4+ tires went 55k miles and still had some life left in them but winter was coming. My Nokian WRs - now with 25k miles are less than 50% worn and are great tires (they even warn the blind for me - a little more noisy). See the attached MPG records to compare all three of the tires that I have had on my 2004 Prius. The Nokians have lower Rolling Resistance than any Michelin tires made today.

JeffD