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  1. Zythryn

    Zythryn Senior Member

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    The 4th place finisher made the complaint.
    By the letter of the rules, electricity isn’t an allowed fuel. However, any other car that uses a starter motor should also be disqualified ;)
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Nor is electricity listed in the forbidden fuels. Regardless, the clock doesn't care.

    Disqualification has done more to show off the Model 3 than if they just let it take 2nd place and then banned it in the future.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    The biggest oil lovers haven't set the whole world on fire, but they're working on it. Makes me wonder if the Trumped up AGW deniers see opportunity in natural disasters ..... 'hey, opportunity to rebuild!! ... and make even more money!!'
     
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    This veers a bit off topic, but I thought it was fascinating. The video is available on CBS All Access if you have that.
    Watch 60 Minutes Season 50 Episode 55: The Dutch Solution, The Power of Google, Into the Wild - Full show on CBS All Access

    It was a discussion on the Dutch solution to flooding compared to the US solutions.
    The Dutch basically don't have floods. The reason for this is they have done a lot of work on preventing damaging floods. The US, on the other hand, waits until a flood occurs (for the most part) and then spends lots of money to recover from it.

    Great episode, I highly recommend it.
     
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    Add insult to injury. WE DO NOTHING TO PREVENT/MITIGATE future flooding! NOR will elected officials advocate the other alternative solution: relocate inhabitants in flood prone areas to higher ground. Prevention/Mitigation or relocation will be cheaper long run vs repetitive Ground Hog day (w/o Bill Murray).
     
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  6. ILuvMyPriusToo

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    What do you mean, once you have a thousand year flood aren't you good for . . . oh, gee, maybe not. :oops:
     
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    It's actually even worse than that... Consider Houston where in the past 20 years developers built tens of thousands of homes in the flood control corridors because they successfully argued that they could use the streets and road systems as a substitute flood control corridors, which led to one million destroyed vehicles and 30K houses destroyed. But don't worry, it's no one's fault because "the largest storm on record caused the flooding." It's just an act of god and there's nothing you can do about that much rain, so why bother?
     
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    My brother had two Super Birds and I drove both of them. I remember the story about them being banned from the Daytona 500.

    Big car names made their name back in the day because of racing.
    Elon Musk did it right making his first cars very performance oriented instead of glorified golf carts.
    Everyone can make vanilla.
     
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    Or if you want another one... Consider Weyerhaeuser, one of the most corrupt logging companies in the world. In our state every time there's new rules created to protect Salmon or other endangered species as well as every time new rules are written to protect people from being killed by logging-caused landslides the lead for the state who coordinates the writing of the planning documents always gets a high paid executive job at Weyco in less than a year and the state ethics review board always says nothing unethical happened.

    So a little less than a decade ago the "largest storm on record" flooded the I-5 for over a week about a 1/2 hour south of me. This shut down our primary route for interstate commerce had a near 8 hour detour for over a week causing tens of millions of dollars in losses to the state economy.

    This happened all because most of the forested land upstream has filled all the creeks and rivers with silt, so there's no room for the water anymore... Add to that this the landslides that happened during this flood, which are directly caused by Weyco's unsustainable logging practices and what is the outcome 10 years later?

    The state is trying to figure out how to tax every property owner in the watershed, other than the largest timber land owners most responsible for the damage in order to fund a multi-billion dollar reservoir to "protect" the I-5 from flooding again.


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    Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/we-already-knew-how-to-reduce-damage-from-floods-we-just-didnt-do-it/2017/09/01/cc6c4174-8f2a-11e7-8df5-c2e5cf46c1e2_story.html?utm_term=.99cbfb870d8d

    It happened 24 years ago, in the Great Flood of 1993 in the upper Midwest.

    After that disaster, the Clinton administration directed an experienced federal interagency task force to report on the flood and its causes. That report, "Sharing the Challenge ," was prepared by Army Brig. Gen. Gerry E. Galloway and released in 1994. It made more than 100 recommendations for policy and program changes to address and reduce flood risks and improve the nation's floodplain management everywhere, not just in the area along the Mississippi River that had been underwater. The government found that many policies were encouraging — rather than discouraging — people to build homes and businesses in places with increasingly high risks of flooding by allowing new building in those areas, constructing insufficient flood-control projects that give residents a false sense of security and subsidizing redevelopment after disasters without mitigation. That often compounded the costs and problems caused by floods.

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    I remember following that flood in 1993... Remember reading updates everyday in the newspaper and as a young fledgling enviro I was so grateful that there was the political will and forethought to protect large areas of land to prevent this problem in the future. Little did I know the amount of stupidity and greed that Newt Gingrich and his billionaire-funded political wackos were about to unleash on this country over the next quarter century. These days we live in a world of magical thinking where there are no consequences for environmental problems as long as you demonize and hate enviros, because they're the problem not defying the laws of natural systems.
     
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