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What would a Prius Driver Training Curriculum look like?

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  1. Braddles.au

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    My colleague asked if I could train him to drive his Gen III Prius better. I leapt at the chance. Then I wondered what and how I would teach him.
    We had 1 hour today, so I prepared a great big list that I quickly ignored as soon as he drove off in the full red of the PWR zone at each intersection!

    In Lesson 1 I explained the HSI, Pulse and Glide, how to brake and getting the best use of the EV zone. Sadly, he doesn't keep track of his tanks or trips, however he does have all of his fuel receipts.

    I know that there's plenty of guides out there. But how would you present it if you were coaching someone? Maybe you have a Driving Instructor licence or a Certificate IV in Training and would approach it in a particular way.

    UPDATE: A few notes...
    • I'm assuming that the bare minimum is available from the dealer and user manual and that a new owners takes note.
    • I'm assuming that the person wants to learn more.
    • You might not teach in strict order of doing. I suggest that teaching the driving skills comes before teaching how to start or warm up.
    • Someone who drives highways would need to know Super Highway Mode fairly quickly, but not at the expense of basic skills.
    • Don't be frightened of the science. Someone who will never understand what's under the bonnet will understand the basic concepts.
    Here's some subjects that could comprise a full course:
    1. How to read the instruments you've got:
      1. HSI zones
      2. Fuel consumption to show if the engine is running... kinda (for LHK it is blank if the engine is off and jumps to 5 LHK or more when the engine is running.)
      3. Speedometer - know what the true speed is; usually 3km/h slower than the display at 60, 80, 100km/h
      4. Trip meters
      5. The ones you can ignore.
    2. Starting from stationary
    3. Pulse & Glide (what's your delta v?)
    4. Conserving Momentum
      1. Driving Without Brakes (safely)
      2. Smart braking
      3. Rabbit timing
      4. Accelerating (and anticipating)
      5. Braking (and anticipating)
    5. Recording fuel use (OCD and non-OCD options)
    6. Filling the tank and what petrol to use
    7. Know how much fuel has been used, how much is left and Pop Quiz how far can it be driven?
    8. Maintenance for Fuel Economy - Tyre pressure, tyre type, oil, etc.
      1. Reduce rolling resistance
      2. Maintain vehicle performance
      3. Reduce weight
    9. Warming up and understanding the stages
      1. Cold temperature driving
      2. Hot temperature driving
      3. Using the Heater/Fan/A/C and how it affects ICE
      4. Grill Blocking
      5. Conserving engine heat.
    10. Not Drafting, Waking
    11. Accessories for (and against) Fuel Economy
    12. Thinking of other road users.
    13. Why is it so? - The science of driving
      1. Physics
      2. Psychology
    14. Using third party gauges - each is worthy of a course on their own. However, there are common uses for a gauge.
      1. Calibration
      2. Which gauges?
      3. You know you're addicted to infoporn when...
    Thoughts for topics or methodology? [Thanks for the additions]
     
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    mad-dog-one Prius Enthusiast

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    The local Department of Motor Vehicles driving manual should be adequate. Drive it like you would any other car and your fuel economy will be excellent.
     
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    Simply drive the speed limit to get maximum mpg's
     
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    "What would a Prius Driver Training Curriculum look like?"


    Every day I drive, I ask myself a more comprehensive question: "What would ANY Driver Training Curriculum look like for some of the incompetent and worse drivers on our roads?"
     
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    Some thoughts come to mind:

    1. Super Highway Mode
    2. Grill Blocking
    3. Drafting (reasonably)
    4. Heat/Fan control and how it affects ICE
     
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    retired4999 Prius driver since 2005

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    Drive as if you had no brakes.

    Gas pedal, drive as if you have an egg under your foot.
     
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    In addition to teaching techniques, reinforce by classifying them:

    Conserve momentum

    DWB
    Smart braking
    Rabbit timing


    Accelerate wisely

    Reduce rolling resistance

    Conserve engine heat

    Maintain vehicle performance

    Reduce weight

    This takes it back to the underlying science.
     
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    The bar display with the little cars has been my wake up call to my own braking issues.... I am working that screen hard to keep those little cars away.... but luckily I found the Prius easy to adapt to and while my baby keeps setting levels for me to beat it is a fun ride.

    Pulse and glide is my favorite Prius motion - still working to achieve my best with winter fuel and temps... did manage one day two weeks ago with a 62mpg reading on a 34 mile trip... :)
     
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    Thanks for the contributions. I'm updating the OP to put them into some sort of order.
    I've also updated the notes to suggest that this is a curriculum for someone who wants to learn more. There might be a module for absolute beginners, but the User Manual and Dealer should cover that.
    The simplest thing is not always the one you present first; you should probably present the most common first, even if it is a bit complicated.
    And I'm always trying to put training into chunks that make sense together.

    Taking shape quite nicely.
     
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    Start the class with this video tribute to the Prius.

    YouTube
     
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    With some drivers, old habits are hard to break. I would start by showing them how they should drive ANY vehicle so they'll get better mpg's no matter what they drive. Once they've mastered that, then it's time to show what the Prius can really do!
     
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    Even good habits die hard. How do you explain that smooth driving is not as efficient as Pulse and Glide without demonstrating it? I know a couple that had the Gen II and the lead-foot lady got statistically better fuel economy than the silky smooth man.
    If someone has not yet bought a Prius or has one in the family but doesn't like the idea of driving it (yet), that might be the best approach.
    So you'd need an alternative structure that would be applicable to all cars. Probably more on the Conservation of Momentum and the psychology of driving and none of the HSI.
    Wow, Steve Coogan!
    And drifting in a RWD Gen II Prius! (See 6:55 - 7:08)
    How's this for an idea... let's leave that for advanced role play "what will people think" or the graduation party, ok?
     
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    That Gen II definitely deserved some movie credits... I read somewhere on line there were three Prii that played the part and one was souped up with a big ICE in the back to create the drifting moves but due to the engine the actors could not sit in it very long due to the fumes it emitted.

    Gotta wonder if you get a Prius option in Grand Theft Auto... :ROFLMAO:
     
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    Agreed. IMHO, one has to focus on driving safely and not divert so much attention to managing a machine that has comprehensive computer controls that you cannot realistically override.
     
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    To start, Hybrid 101: all energy comes from the gasoline, so don't try hard to keep it in EV mode.

    Then onto the hypermiling. But before kstat's tips I would emphasize a couple of essentials.

    Zeroth Law: never let tire pressure drop below the door jamb. That means most of the time they should be higher.
    Golden Rules:
    - anticipatory focus: focus in driving, look well ahead in distance all around and think well ahead in time
    - buffering: try to leave much more than 2 seconds to the car in front.

    The Zeroth Law and in particular the Golden Rules make good hypermilers safer than the vast majority of other drivers.

    The Golden Rules help them see things earlier and act in a measured way in response to things around them, and the measured response will automatically make drivers more efficient. They're also fundamental to applying effectively the techniques that kstat mentioned, in particular Driving Without Brakes.

    After seeing the results of Hybrid 101, Zeroth Law and the Golden Rules I'd introduce the other techniques in groups I call
    Free Money: eliminating waste without giving up time or comfort. Light timing, smart braking, threading the needle (smart merging), eliminating idling, no creeping, smoothing stop and go, communication with signals.
    Trade-offs: simple things and techniques that swap time or comfort for fuel economy. Full driving without brakes, gliding, driving with load, parking for departure, combining errands, efficient acceleration, raising tire pressures, restricted climate control use, dumping the junk, driving below the speed limit, partial grill blocking.
    Advanced: techniques that need to be done right. Pulse and glide, high-speed neutral glides, full grill blocking.

    Oh and something that should never be forgotten.
    Altruistic Hypermiling: understanding your impact on others. What's efficient for one is not necessarily either convenient or efficient for another. You can help others save time and gasoline with courtesy and consideration.

    PS if he even mentions drafting, just say no, it's dangerous.
     
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    One thing I would emphasize is to accelerate with flow of traffic from a stop and don't try too hard to keep the HSI indicator out of the PWR zone when doing so. Insisting on staying out of the HSI PWR zone will merely piss off drivers behind in many situations.

    Some believe they are supposed to nurse the car from a stop as long as possible on EV before allowing the IC engine to take over. That is so Not how to accelerate from a stop in Prius or hybrid.

    In summary, let the gas engine supply the power for acceleration, hill climbinb, higher speeds and enjoy the EV when you get it.
     
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    That's truly very generous of you to train someone else --- that person must think very highly of you.
    You're curriculum covers quite a bit - I'm not sure how far the rabbit hole you and your friend are willing to go but since you asked - below is what you might consider adding...


    1. 6 Traction Battery State of Charge display
    avoiding automatic battery recharging by the ICE

    3. Conserving Momentum
    a. Pulse and Glide (P&G)= flat terrain, traffic jams - using mini-P&G
    throttle control - eco, normal, pwr, synching the pulse with a downhill
    b. (4.1) driving without brakes
    c. (4.2) smart braking
    d. (4.3) Rabbit timing - traffic cues to look for
    e. (4.4) accelerating - traffic cues to look for
    f. (4.5) braking
    g. avoid going in reverse (front facing parking)
    h. turning - wide turns are more fuel efficient than
    sharp turns - centrifugal force loss.
    i. Time shifting - driving with no traffic/traffic lights are off

    4. conserving potential gravitational energy
    a. Driving with load - low speed, using normal or pwr
    Warp Stealth Mode using HSI (40-50 mph)
    b. Driving with load - superhighway speed
    c. stopping with the best gravitational potention position

    8.1 reduing rolling resistance
    a. matters most under 40 mph
    b. tires and tire pressure
    c. road surface - weather, construction, potholes and other perils

    8.2 Maintain vehicle performance
    a. acceleration in EV, Eco, Normal, Pwr mode
    b. speed vs. fuel efficiency, i.e. hi speed kills MPG
    c. cruise control - runaway prius?
    d. braking
    anti lock brakes - how they work
    regenerative braking - how they work
    what is the most effective way to
    use regenerative braking?
    panic stops
    e. why use the "B" driving mode? or coming down
    the Mountain side driving... using a Prius...
    when the SOC > =7 bars the Prius will force the
    electric motors on and turn off the CC to try to
    keep the traction battery from overcharging
    f. aerodynamic drag - roof racks, bike racks, and other distractions
    g. fuel types: 100% gas , E10, E15 to E85, Octane level, hi altitude driving


    8. 4. thermal efficiency -startup cost
    long trips yield better Fuel Efficiency and
    short trips yield worst fuel effficiency

    9.1 minimized automatic coolant/catalytic converter reheating
    sequence in subfreezing temperatures traffic jams by using
    PWR mode.

    9.2. Hot Temperature driving
    a. rolling down the windows when driving...
    b. climate control usage

    9.4 cold temperature fuel efficiency tricks
    A. grill blocking
    B. using a heated garage
    C. Engine block Heater
    D. combining short trips into one long trip

    15. Avoiding distracted driving scenarios
    a. cellphone/bluetooth tech
    b. navigation system
    c. radio/passengers/pets

    16. Emergency!
    panic stop & stability contol s
    jump start
    changing a tire/ using the spare tire
    emergency flashers
    my key battery died
    how to manually open the rear hatch when the battery is dead
     
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    I started my playing with MPGs by working the Energy monitor as I did not know how to switch screens. Got the stellar 92.+ mpgs on a 10.7 mile trip that corresponded with my Fuelly data and it almost had me faint when I shut the car off.

    Now found the hybrid system monitor and the screen with the bars/little cars and am learning a bit more about driving my car... had one winter driving day with a 10+ mile trip and got 62.5 mpgs.... am learning to lay off the brakes and rejoicing when the EV light comes on...

    Who knew driving was this much fun?! Five years ago I would have laughed if someone said "you will have a Prius in the garage...":D Now I am passing out the Kool Aid samples....
     
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    I was only thinking as far ahead as the first hour. :)

    I'm under the impression that nearly everyone on PC would love to share their knowledge and help others who want to be helped. But you can generally only teach what you can do yourself. (That's not strictly true, since some of the most talented exponents of a skill can be the worst at imparting knowledge and vic versa.) Assembling a modular curriculum can help both the expert and the amateur alike. Sometimes I only understand something when I try to explain it to someone else.

    My colleague reads my blog where I write a lot about my Prius and my second tank over 1000km (622 miles) must have made him wonder why he gets only 600km (estimated). (The 2 reasons are I drive efficiently and way past DTE=0km.)
    There's not much of a Prius club scene in Australia. (I'm a member of the Prius Club of Queensland, apparently the only active club in Australia, and that's over 1200km/750 miles away!) Hybrids are expensive new, have little or no price incentives and until recently were mostly pool cars leased by government or companies and not "owned" as such. Where else is he going to find out about such things?

    You've introduced some very good topics and I like the way you've arranged them. I also like that you've got some maintenance and emergency topics; there's plenty of uncomplicated bits on this car that you can and should maintain in between servicing.
    There should be an FAQ. A question like "When do I use 'B'?' could come up at any time. And "why did I only get 5.2 LHK (45mpg(US)) from that last trip/tank? and should I feel bad about it?"

    Give me a bit of time to rearrange the OP into modules.

    Thanks everyone.
     
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    I agree the car is a pleasure to drive.