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wheels and snows

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by Sanguine, Jan 29, 2008.

  1. Sanguine

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    Almost ready to buy. Car sales slow in Central/Upstate New York, maybe save a bit.
    But I would love to hear what snow tires and wheels Prius Chat members choose. And if they get pressure sensors in them. I am also curious as to what size snow tires they choose. (I have a pretty good set of Goodyear Ultra Grip Ice from my WRX (205/55-16) it looks like these will work on a Prius, less than 2% difference on the circumference, speedo will read a little low. I would prefer narrower, but I have these, and tires are not cheap, I even think my aftermarket steel wheels will fit -- Tire Size Calculator - tire & wheel plus sizing)
     
  2. jayman

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    I've tried various studless snow tires, my favorites for traction are the Bridgestone Blizzak and Dunlop Graspic DS-2. However, I went back to a studded tire for maximum ice traction. I have a 2004 Prius and it has the hyper sensitive Traction control that can leave you helpless sometimes

    I went to Canadian Tire and picked up 4 studded Goodyear Nordic directional snow tires. This is the same as the Goodyear Ultra Grip 500 sold in Europe:

    Goodyear Eur-Winter Tire-UltraGrip 500

    If you click on "Profile" a Flash movie loads that explains the tire. I highly recommend this tire to anybody needing serious winter traction, especially on icy roads.

    On dry pavement the tires are quite noisy, that is a good compromise. In 185 65 15 size, the tire including studding, balancing and mounting was $122. I use cheap steel rims to save the alloys from road salt

    I don't have TPMS. For those who run winter tires, they usually ignore the TPMS warning. My 2004 will constantly display the "snowflake" on the dash whenever the temp is +3 C or colder. So that yellow light stays on the entire winter
     
  3. qbee42

    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    Try a search. Google shows this: [SIZE=-1]Results 1 - 10 of about 2,310 from priuschat.com for "snow tires"

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    Just traded in my Prius, but I ran Blizzak Revos on Sport Edition wheels, no tire pressure sensors. They were wonderful.

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  5. Sanguine

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    Blizzaks and Graspics. I will concentrate on those two when I do my shopping. For some reason, I shy away from studded tires. I think here the studs would not last all that long, since 98% of winter I am driving on bare roads. But the ice and snow hit, whoa boy.
    Thanks all.
     
  6. HardCase

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    Hey jayman, what sort mileage hit do you take from running studs? I've read a lot of threads about how such studless tires as the Blizzak will cause a roughly 5mpg reduction, but am curious about studs.
     
  7. jayman

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    I was pretty careful to document the MFD indicated fuel economy the same day I put on the winter tires/wheels. In winter there are a lot of variables but comparing a drive at the same approximate temps and road conditions:

    The Dunlop Graspic DS-2 appeared to offer the least MPG hit compared to the Michelin Harmony "all season" tires. No difference in city driving, on the highway at temps of -20 C, perhaps 2-5 MPG less

    The Yokohama Ice Guard 10 appeared to be a much "looser" tire on the highway. In city driving, around 2 MPG less, on the highway 5-7 MPG less. I would not recommend this tire, the highway handling characteristics are weird

    Studded Goodyear Nordic, AKA Goodyear Ultra Grip 500. Around 5 MPG less in city, 7-10 MPG less on the highway. Not sure if that is due to the studding or the very aggressive tread pattern

    I feel the MPG loss is more than made up by finally having a decent winter car. I rarely use my FJ for commutting, just for trips out to the hobby farm. If my Prius didn't have the hyper sensitive Trac, I could perhaps get by with a less aggressive winter tire

    I've been using winter tires in winter for +20 years. Some still feel an "all season" is perfectly ok for winter driving. CBC's Marketplace ran another story on winter tires this week

    CBC.ca - Marketplace - Don't rent a car this February without winter tires. Oh, wait...