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Yokohama vs Michelins?

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by justslappy, Nov 8, 2011.

  1. justslappy

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    Need new tires. Decision down to the Michelin Energy Saver (about $730 after rebate) versus the Yokohama Avid Touring ($450). User comments about the Michelins sound great, but hard to justify the price, and leaning towards the Yokohamas.

    Appreciate your thoughts.
     
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    Too bad one can't easily test drive a set. You'll prob discover that $300 extra dollars is toally worth it for the driving experience you'll get from the Michelins.
     
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    $730 for a set of the Michelin's sounds really high. I got mine from TireRack 7 months ago for about $115/tire, which is about 40% lower than what you were quoted. In fact, the Michelin Energy Saver in the 195/65/15 size is listed at $96/tire on TireRack now. I didn't "add to cart" to check the availability, but I think you're getting a rip-off price at what you were quoted. So you might have another $10/tire for shipping, but still, you're quoted close to $180/tire. You also get the $70 prepaid rebate card through TireRack.

    Just to give you another option, of course. There's several other LRR tire options for the Prius, with tires on their site around the $80-90/tire range.
     
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    As my friend, wick1ert, stated. Something isn't right with the price they quoted you on the Michelin tires.
    That is slightly more than I paid for my 17" Michelin LRR tires. A set of high quality 15" tires should not top $550 installed.

    I agree with checking the prices on tirerack for a comparison. I would drop the Avid Touring for a better LRR rated tire.
     
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    Before rebate you are saying the Energy Savers are $200 per tire? Even if these are installed that is mighty high. I just had Michelin Primacy MXV4 installed at Sam's for about $535 including installation and road hazard warranty. They were about $125 per tire before rebate.

    The Energy Savers were not available at the time but what I remember the price was pretty much in line with the MXV4's.

    I came from the Yokohama Avid S33D OEM tires and there is day and night difference between the Michelin's and the Yokohama's. Well worth the difference in cost to me.
     
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    Avids will handle better but have worse MPG. Micheline A/S are not bad, and after getting them our MPG stayed ~58-62.

    730 for set is too much, they are 96$ at tirerack. Set is $384 + shipping ($52) - rebate ($70) = 366$. They have local installers and you can have tires shipped to installer. Installation is usually less then 20$ per tire good luck.

    Michelin Energy Saver A/S

    Another one to look at is Bridgestone EP422
    Bridgestone Ecopia EP422
     
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    I have had good luck with Tire Rack and my dealer installed the Michelins for a nominal amount, I am sure it was less than $20 per tire.
     
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    Tirerack price + $15/shipping + tax + $25 for install and disposal = a reasonable tire price.

    Your price quote is way too high. Also, Michelin is running $70 off at certain retailers right now.
     
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    Original post removed. Primacy tires in the 195/65-15 size are apparently not LRR tires. Primacy in the 215/45-17 size are.
     
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    Tom, why Primacy over Energy Saver? Did u consider ES? thanks
     
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    This is a great way to simplify determining if a price quote is reasonable. You might need to up the install and disposal to $30 now, as some tire shops will install a new TPMS kit (about $3-5/tire) each time.

    I've noticed here, that a lot of shops increased the lifetime mount/balance price by about $5/tire and usually price quote the non-lifetime one. This may not be true everywhere, though, as a lot of people got used to the lifetime being a standard thing.

    It's also a lot cheaper if you go to, and trust, your local walmart to do the mount, balance, etc. part. I think the one here said it was $5/tire, but wasn't a lifetime. It might be worth the gamble in price if you trust them (I've used Wally in the past on other cars and didn't have any issues).
     
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    Good question, the Primacy tires I have are LRR and have the "X Energy" label on the sidewall. But I see what you mean, the Primacy in the 195/65-15 size is not listed as an LRR tire. I will retract my recommendation and suggest you try the MXV4 S8 or the Energy Saver A/S instead:

    Tire Search Results
     
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    The Primacy in 195/65-15 are in fact, Green-X complaint. I presume this means that it has low rolling resistance technology.

    I say this based on the e-mail I received from Michelin today.
     
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    it is hard to compare but some Green-X are not that much LRR, they had done worse in tests then non-LRR tires. For example HydroEdge with Green X had done worse then Goodyear Integrity:
    When Round and Black Becomes Lean and Green

    here is some more info on LRR tires:
    Fuel Efficient Low Rolling Resistant Tires
     
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    Back to the original topic. My daughter has suffered her third puncture with the Yokohamas on her SV21 Camry in 4 months. I drove the same camry on the same country roads for years with michies and never had a puncture. I acnowledge that any tire can puncture But in 45 of years of driving I cannot remember ever having a puncture with Michelins.