New member-only political subforum - FHOPolitics- read here to join

**Danny** · 12-02-2007, 12:40 PM

Fred's House of Pancakes was never meant to be overrun by political discussions, but the political threads have seem to taken over lately in here. To help keep FHOP the social hangout for established PriusChat members, we've created FHOPolitics, a member-only private subforum where ALL political discussions will need to occur from now on. Making it a private forum will keep these posts out of everyone's "View New Posts" searches unless they choose to be members of the FHOPolitics group.

So, I know you're all asking 1 of 2 questions:

How do I keep FHOPolitics threads out of my "View New Posts"?
- Easy. Do nothing. By default these threads will not show up for you.
How I gain access to the FHOPolitics forum so that I can post threads about political subjects?
- Check out your "Group Memberships" page and you'll see the Fred's House of Politics Group. Just click the radio button next to Join Group, then click "Join Group". Boom! You have access to talk politics at your leisure.

Moderators will determine what are/are not political threads. We'll slowly be moving existing threads into the FHOPolitics, but all new politically-themed threads should only be started in the FHOPolitics forum.

Questions? Fire away.

To prevent trolling by those who learn of this forum and join simply to stir controversy and rancor the privilege of joining FHOPol will require moderator approval. There are no strict criteria and there will be some subjectivity, but we wish this to be a forum for Prius owners and enthusiasts first and foremost to discuss their views without invited or uninvited outside interference.

**TonyPSchaefer** · 12-02-2007, 02:14 PM

I would like to make it clear up front that this move was spurred by the large majority of PriusChat members who did want to see all the political discussions. Danny pitched this idea to the Moderators a long time ago and we all supported it. As most of you have noticed, in the previous PriusChat incarnation, when you hit [New posts] you saw everything in all sub-forums. Even the local groups.

With this new software upgrade, Danny is able to set up these private forums. A big ol' "well done" and "atta boy" to Danny for this.

And now let me shoot the first arrow across the bow of anyone who will be joining FHOPol. We will still be watching for personal attacks and direct insults. You will get dinged when you insult someone directly. Do it again and we will kick it up a notch. Just because FHOPol is private doesn't mean it's going to be lawless. You have the ability to opt in and we have the ability to opt you out, if you catch my drift.

Rae Vynn · 12-02-2007, 05:03 PM

I hear and obey, oh great Moderators [rushes to opt in, as the political skirmishes are just too entertaining!]

hobbit · 12-02-2007, 06:17 PM

oh good, a walled ghetto.
.
_H*

**TonyPSchaefer** · 12-02-2007, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hobbit

oh good, a walled ghetto.
.
_H*

. . .after considerable thought, the first guy says, "for my wish, I want a twenty-foot wall constructed around my home town to keep out all the undesirables and all those people who we don't want coming in."
The genie nodded his head. "It is done."
The second guy turned to the genie and with no hesitation said, "fill it with water."

TJandGENESIS · 12-03-2007, 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyPSchaefer

. . .after considerable thought, the first guy says, "for my wish, I want a twenty-foot wall constructed around my home town to keep out all the undesirables and all those people who we don't want coming in."
The genie nodded his head. "It is done."
The second guy turned to the genie and with no hesitation said, "fill it with water."

I'll join. Why not? It will be fun.

Pinto Girl · 12-06-2007, 01:51 PM

I'm totally confused. What's politics, anyway? The price of hamburger at the local grocery store...?

Meat production is subsidized, the prices for the fuel used to transport it are manipulated by government and business forces, shelf space is a commodity, itself, based upon...what...?

How about the article in the local paper, about environmentalism...?

Who owns the paper? What are their [gasp] political leanings and financial concerns, and how do they stand to benefit from the stories which they print? Who are their advertisers? And how do *they* benefit?

I may be paranoid, but I'm a bit confused, too.

Is there a definition of what "Politics" are, for the concerns of this thread?

Maybe FHOP should stay the same, and you should create another "social networking" forum instead...clearly FHOP as it was was of a lot of interest to at least a few regular posters.

Just my $0.02...adjusted for inflation...
...oooooh, ooooh...THAT statement just reeks of politics!!
:-)

Ichabod · 12-06-2007, 02:32 PM

Pinto Girl you're a trouble-maker, and semantics aside, I think you know what they're talking about

Also, at least one of your examples already has a sub-forum; Environmental discussion.

Still, this seems a little like a "because we can" kind of change... but I understand the reasoning since so much of FHOP has been politics, of late. I'll be seeing y'all in FHOPol!

madler · 12-06-2007, 06:16 PM

Why create a new forum? Why not just shunt them over to Fred's Pancakes?

tripp · 12-06-2007, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinto Girl

Just my $0.02...adjusted for inflation...
...oooooh, ooooh...THAT statement just reeks of politics!!
:-)

Would someone please ban her?

12-02-2007, 12:40 PM	#1
Danny Admin/Founder Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 6,049 My Car: 2010 Prius Model: IV Package: Solar Roof Thanks: 164 Thanked 810 Times in 305 Posts Friends: 52	New member-only political subforum - FHOPolitics- read here to join Fred's House of Pancakes was never meant to be overrun by political discussions, but the political threads have seem to taken over lately in here. To help keep FHOP the social hangout for established PriusChat members, we've created FHOPolitics, a member-only private subforum where ALL political discussions will need to occur from now on. Making it a private forum will keep these posts out of everyone's "View New Posts" searches unless they choose to be members of the FHOPolitics group. So, I know you're all asking 1 of 2 questions: How do I keep FHOPolitics threads out of my "View New Posts"? Easy. Do nothing. By default these threads will not show up for you. How I gain access to the FHOPolitics forum so that I can post threads about political subjects? Check out your "Group Memberships" page and you'll see the Fred's House of Politics Group. Just click the radio button next to Join Group, then click "Join Group". Boom! You have access to talk politics at your leisure. Moderators will determine what are/are not political threads. We'll slowly be moving existing threads into the FHOPolitics, but all new politically-themed threads should only be started in the FHOPolitics forum. Questions? Fire away. To prevent trolling by those who learn of this forum and join simply to stir controversy and rancor the privilege of joining FHOPol will require moderator approval. There are no strict criteria and there will be some subjectivity, but we wish this to be a forum for Prius owners and enthusiasts first and foremost to discuss their views without invited or uninvited outside interference. __________________ Follow PriusChat on and *Buy your discounted 2010 Prius Accessories* here and support PriusChat: PriusChat Shop PriusChat Also Offers Discounts on: Extended Warranty - $1055 : Pre-Paid Maintenance - $875** Last edited by efusco; 10-07-2009 at 11:19 PM.

12-02-2007, 02:14 PM	#2
TonyPSchaefer Your Friendly Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Far-North Chicagoland Posts: 13,915 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: Package: #9 Thanks: 251 Thanked 1,217 Times in 625 Posts Friends: 33	I would like to make it clear up front that this move was spurred by the large majority of PriusChat members who did want to see all the political discussions. Danny pitched this idea to the Moderators a long time ago and we all supported it. As most of you have noticed, in the previous PriusChat incarnation, when you hit [New posts] you saw everything in all sub-forums. Even the local groups. With this new software upgrade, Danny is able to set up these private forums. A big ol' "well done" and "atta boy" to Danny for this. And now let me shoot the first arrow across the bow of anyone who will be joining FHOPol. We will still be watching for personal attacks and direct insults. You will get dinged when you insult someone directly. Do it again and we will kick it up a notch. Just because FHOPol is private doesn't mean it's going to be lawless. You have the ability to opt in and we have the ability to opt you out, if you catch my drift. __________________ Current Mileage Chart

12-02-2007, 05:03 PM	#3
Rae Vynn Wickedly Fun Prius Driver Join Date: May 2007 Location: Grays Harbor, WA, USA Posts: 5,987 My Car: 2007 Prius Model: N/A Package: Base Thanks: 2,210 Thanked 608 Times in 391 Posts Friends: 84	I hear and obey, oh great Moderators [rushes to opt in, as the political skirmishes are just too entertaining!]

12-02-2007, 06:17 PM	#4
hobbit Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bahstahn Posts: 4,089 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: N/A Package: Base Thanks: 0 Thanked 443 Times in 233 Posts Friends: 0	oh good, a walled ghetto. . _H*

12-06-2007, 01:51 PM	#7
Pinto Girl Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California Posts: 3,095 My Car: Other Non-Hybrid Model: N/A Package: N/A Thanks: 68 Thanked 342 Times in 245 Posts Friends: 0	I'm totally confused. What's politics, anyway? The price of hamburger at the local grocery store...? Meat production is subsidized, the prices for the fuel used to transport it are manipulated by government and business forces, shelf space is a commodity, itself, based upon...what...? How about the article in the local paper, about environmentalism...? Who owns the paper? What are their [gasp] political leanings and financial concerns, and how do they stand to benefit from the stories which they print? Who are their advertisers? And how do they benefit? I may be paranoid, but I'm a bit confused, too. Is there a definition of what "Politics" are, for the concerns of this thread? Maybe FHOP should stay the same, and you should create another "social networking" forum instead...clearly FHOP as it was was of a lot of interest to at least a few regular posters. Just my $0.02...adjusted for inflation... ...oooooh, ooooh...THAT statement just reeks of politics!! :-)

12-06-2007, 02:32 PM	#8
Ichabod Artist In Residence Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newton, MA Posts: 1,794 My Car: 2006 Prius Model: Package: #7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 7 Posts Friends: 7	Pinto Girl you're a trouble-maker, and semantics aside, I think you know what they're talking about Also, at least one of your examples already has a sub-forum; Environmental discussion. Still, this seems a little like a "because we can" kind of change... but I understand the reasoning since so much of FHOP has been politics, of late. I'll be seeing y'all in FHOPol!

12-06-2007, 06:16 PM	#9
madler Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pasadena, California Posts: 283 My Car: 2005 Prius Model: Package: #4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Friends: 0	Why create a new forum? Why not just shunt them over to Fred's Pancakes?