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| I Plug-In My Prius Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wheelersburg, Ohio
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My Car: 2006 Prius Package: #7 Nominated 7 Times in 2 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 18 | Since I have finally been able to get my can-view data captured and decoded I have decided to do some data analysis with my 2006 Prius. Unfortunately I don't know that much about excel or OpenOffice to create my own graphs yet so for now I'm leaving it up to YOU to sort through the data. I'm hoping someone will volunteer to make some graphs for me. I know Bob Wilson likes to make lots of graphs with lots of info in them. If your reading Bob feel free to do what ever you want with my data. Here is my current fill up log in ODS and XLS format. ( Current as of 2008-11-17 ) http://jaygroh.dreamhost.com/priusch...a/PriusLog.ods http://jaygroh.dreamhost.com/priusch...a/PriusLog.xls Here are a few files from my trips to and from work. These are in CSV format. The naming of the files are in YearMonthDate-24hTimeStarted.csv. There are about 45 lines of data for every minute captured if you want to know how long the trip was. http://jaygroh.dreamhost.com/priusch...ewdataCSV1.zip Last few days of May 2008 in CSV format. Each file is a whole day of driving instead of a single trip. File name is YearMonthDay.csv http://jaygroh.dreamhost.com/priusch...2008MayCSV.zip June 2008 data There are about 7 days of missing data because my screen broke and I could not record the data. This zip contains the RAW bin files. You will need to use my V4+ decoder software found here to convert the data to CSV. http://jaygroh.dreamhost.com/priusch...a/2008June.zip July 2008 data July 16-17 are combined. July 31 I ran the tank down to %0 to get the E10 out of it. http://jaygroh.dreamhost.com/priusch...ata/200807.zip August 2008 data Aug. 14th is where the Hymotion battery data starts. http://jaygroh.dreamhost.com/priusch...ata/200808.zip September 2008 data I'm still on my first PHEV tank. http://jaygroh.dreamhost.com/priusch...ata/200809.zip October 2008 data Firtst tank with PHEV ended on October 11th. http://jaygroh.dreamhost.com/priusch...ata/200810.zip I'm ending my data capture project as of October 31th 2008 because of technical difficulties. If I decide to start capturing again I will continue to post the data here. I may in the near future compile this data into a spreadsheet so people can more easily play around with the data. I will however continue to update my fill up log each time I fill up my car with gas. Since turning my Prius into a PHEV it may take months before the spreadsheet is updated.
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| Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bahstahn
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My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0 | I was just doing a little noodling over some other data sets last night, as an exercise in figuring out how to graph stuff in excel -- normally I hate all things microsoft but that's what the scantool runs under and it squirts out .csv files so I might as well do the reduction right there. I made good progress, although trying to determine any fine points between fuel burn rate vs. output power is being sort of indeterminate. At least I know how to apply simple formulas to new columns and control what goes into graph axes now. . In your sets, what are the units for fuel flow? And where does the "vvti" figure come from and what are its units? . _H* |
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| I Plug-In My Prius Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wheelersburg, Ohio
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My Car: 2006 Prius Package: #7 Nominated 7 Times in 2 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 18 | My first set of CSV files are in metric units. My last few days of May are in US units. Fuel flow is from CAN message 0x38 in Liters/hr but converted to Gallons/hr. Not sure if this is the correct location for the data but I'm just going by what was originally written in Morris's decoder program and Vass's spreadsheet. Same thing for VVTi. I got it from CAN message 0x526. The VVTi value I get is the same that is displayed in the can-view. If you have a list of all the different data and its location in the CAN messages I would appreciate it if I could get a copy off of you. There are still some data points I would like to be able to graph out like IGN BTDC. I don't know if its included in the can-view dump because I don't have the location of the IGN information. Also you don't have to use excel if you don't want to. I'm using OpenOffice Calc to do work with my CSV files. I've been MS office fee for many years now. Now I just have to work on getting MS OS free. Last edited by TheForce; 07-02-2008 at 06:12 PM. |
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| One owner, low mileage Join Date: May 2006 Location: Chesterfield, VA
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My Car: 2005 Prius Package: #2 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 3 | Hobbit, Jay and I have been working together on this ... actually he more than I. ![]() Using his gallons/hour calculation, I created an Excel formula to figure iMPG. The chart results are pretty consistent with my historical CAN-View observations of the RPM/MPH/iMPG relationship. I plan to cross-check the fuel flow formula tomorrow with CAN-View's displayed values. Now, as he suggests, it would be peachy if you have a handle on where in the data stream he can find ignition timing. Now that I finally have my CV data capture working, I'd like to analyze, among other things, the various operating parameters that folks are using in SHM. Jay, many thanks to you, BTW, for all your help on this! ![]()
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| Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bahstahn
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My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0 | That's sort of what I'm after, too -- more or less steady-state highway conditions > 41 MPH. Ignition timing can be queried, whether or not you know where it is [or not] in the passively- captured CAN chatter, it's just a bit slower data rate. I've found that if I try to hold a given set of conditions for some reasonable time [10 sec?] on the highway I can get reasonably consistent captures that match each other. Often the data for a given round of queries gets into weird edge conditions because running parameters changed over the window when a scantool asked for and received all the various parameters, but hopefully staring at a scatter graph allows seeing the basic trends and visual discarding of outliers. . To me, the important params are RPM [usually used as my X axis in what I've been going over recently], injector time, measured ICE torque, and then maybe veh. speed and ignition timing. The first three allow calculation of power and fuel-consumption RATE, i.e. integrating injector times over RPM should give a figure that can be matched against (torque*RPM) to yield power and let time cancel out. But I'm not sure I'm calculating things quite right. I should probably convert everything to SI and take a wild-ass guess as to "energy flow rate" based on roughly 10 KWh or so of actual car-pushing energy available per gallon of fuel... . There was also of course some recent stuff on the electrical side exploring boost voltage, but that's a totally different intent and approach. . _H* Last edited by hobbit; 06-01-2008 at 11:38 AM. |
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| Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: North Alabama
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My Car: 2003 Prius Package: #1 Nominated 2 Times in 2 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 7 | Sorry I haven't been able to help but let me offer a couple of excel tips:
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| I Plug-In My Prius Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wheelersburg, Ohio
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My Car: 2006 Prius Package: #7 Nominated 7 Times in 2 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 18 | I added my data for June 2008 to the first post. There are about 7 days of data missing this month because of a screen failure. These files are in RAW format and need converted with my V4+ decoder software. Links are in my first post. All following data will be posted in RAW bin format so others can convert the data as they like. |
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| I Plug-In My Prius Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wheelersburg, Ohio
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My Car: 2006 Prius Package: #7 Nominated 7 Times in 2 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 18 | I added my data for July. July 16-17 are combined in to one file. July 31 I ran the tank to %0 to try to get as much E10 out of it as possible. I also updated my spread sheets for new tank data. |
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