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176 to 200 miles (Wow! How did that happen?) 5 25.00%
201 to 225 miles (I AM the Hypermiler) 1 5.00%
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Old 07-13-2008, 01:49 AM   #1
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Default Max Miles on First Pip?

For me: 197 miles before losing the first pip.

Just this past month I drove to Minnesota and had my first tank of greater than 600 miles. The first step along the way was very interesting. THe first pip on the guess gauge lasted nearly 200 miles. Here is a picture just before I lost that first pip:max-miles-first-pip-firstpip197.jpg

I know many others have bettered this number. Please share what you've done -- and how you did it!

200 miles? 210? 225? 250?

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Old 07-13-2008, 01:44 PM   #2
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For me: 197 miles before losing the first pip.

Just this past month I drove to Minnesota and had my first tank of greater than 600 miles. The first step along the way was very interesting. THe first pip on the guess gauge lasted nearly 200 miles. Here is a picture just before I lost that first pip:Attachment 10449

I know many others have bettered this number. Please share what you've done -- and how you did it!

200 miles? 210? 225? 250?
I had my biggest first PIP right before my first gas gushing out of the gas tank on fill up incident.It was at 6,000 miles on my 07.
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Old 07-13-2008, 04:00 PM   #3
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179 last week. I got scared, thought the gage was broken.
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Old 07-13-2008, 04:12 PM   #4
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213 two tanks ago and again last fillup seven days ago. First time, probably overfilled. Last time, did second click and stopped. I'm guessing that if I stop on one click, I'll get a different figure based on how much fuel is in the tank and the mpg I'm getting to that point.
Average mpg has been 48-50. I also watch the intermediate pips down to 2, when I start hunting for a pump. Appears that each pip represents 30-35 mpg, although not completely consistent -- one pip lasted 40 miles.
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Old 07-13-2008, 04:48 PM   #5
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I normally get 200-210 miles for the first pip. When filling, I add 1 gallon after the nozzle first clicks off. Never have overfilled doing this. I have been able to get in 1.5 gallons after the first click but then it did overfill, which is why I now stop at 1 gallon. Average mpg hovers at 50.
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Old 07-13-2008, 08:45 PM   #6
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I always imagined (but never proved) that all the variation in bladder capacity would show up in the variation of the first pip. If that is the case, then the later pips should be much more consistent among tanks.
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OK. Now I see why there is so much variation in first pips miles.

I fill to the auto stop point and then go to the first click afterward. In the summer (or very warm weather -- 60 or up) I will go to the second click, but no further.

My guess is that if I added another gallon I could go past 230 or 240.

Perhaps the question is quite irrelevant!?

I was just so thrilled to get that far on one pip, and I thought it had more to do with my getting all of those miles without stopping.
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I only add after the first click if I plan on driving a long distance immediately.
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A Priori, I think the question is entirely relevant. But if the data existed on how many gallons subsequent pips represent, then we could be pretty sure about whether the first pip variation is related to bladder stretch variation. As far as I know, we don't know. Merely an hypothesis.
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My max was 230 something or could have been in the 40's. Don't quite remember, but I was shocked. Then after that, the pips started going down faster then the first and that sucked

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