Oil Filter - FRAM

N3FOL · 12-20-2007, 07:20 PM

I an anticipating to change my oil and oil filter next month. Is there anyone using the FRAM oil filter PH4967? When I did a search, there was a talk about a oil drain gasket? Should this be replaced everytime the oil is changed?

Rae Vynn · 12-20-2007, 07:23 PM

NO NO NO NO... do not use FRAM, please!!

If you do a search on "Oil change" you'll find TONS of information on oil changes... which filters are best, how often to change the oil plug gasket, and what oils people are using. There is even a photo tutorial around here, somewhere.

Trust me about the filter, though... just say No to fram...

paprius4030 · 12-20-2007, 10:17 PM

Why do you say Fram's are no good? What about their air filter, I see they are now making one that fits the Prius?

N3FOL · 12-20-2007, 10:32 PM

Rae Vynn, just curious why don't you want FRAM? I've used FRAM on all of my vehicles. My 95 Taurus SHO has 162K and still running strong as ever. My 96 QUEST that replaced my Prius had 165K and never required a major valve adjustment.

I'll do my research on this anyway...If I can get an OEM oil filter from my dealership for less that $4.44 (price I paid for the FRAM) or equal to that...I'll settle for a Toyota filter.

Doc Willie · 12-20-2007, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by paprius4030

Why do you say Fram's are no good? What about their air filter, I see they are now making one that fits the Prius?

Check out this page http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfi...lterstudy.html

This guy took a couple dozen oil filters apart, and rated them for construction and quality. Fram flunked.

Rae Vynn · 12-20-2007, 11:50 PM

amazing. You'll "settle" for a $4 filter for a car that:
a) only needs oil changes every 5K miles
b) has the HSD system
c) could easily last for 500K miles

Seriously, I think paying $5 - $10 for a filter is a small, very cheap price for the peace of mind I have knowing that my engine is as protected as possible.
Of course, I also use Mobil1.

dogfriend · 12-21-2007, 01:35 AM

The standard Fram oil filters have garnered a reputation for poor quality construction. A few decades ago they were a quality brand, but compared to other brands, they are inferior in construction. There are a few sites on the internet where people have disected different filters and shown the differences.

I don't think this necessarily applies to their air filters; its much more difficult to hide poor quality since the element is easy to inspect.

I don't see any reason to buy Fram filters when you can buy Toyota OEM filters for $39.90 / 10 filters with free shipping from Toyota of Dallas.

http://www.mrtoyotaparts.com/PD-9091....aspx?MakeID=1

dorf · 12-21-2007, 07:14 AM

Ditto ...on all of the above about Fram.

10-15 Years ago while shopping for oil filters, the "Parts Girl" at a NAPA store had a display with the filters cut apart.

NAPA Gold had about three times more filtering material than Fram.

I've been using NAPA since then and WIX when not avail. No problems !!!!

I'll buy the Toyota Filter and Gasket.......Just say NO to FRAM !!!

patsparks · 12-21-2007, 07:17 AM

I also won't use Fram, I use genuine.
Small price to pay for a long peaceful life.

Rangerdavid · 12-21-2007, 08:08 AM

me too here, oil changes done at the Toyota dealer, Toyota filter and synthetic oil.

12-20-2007, 07:20 PM	#1
N3FOL Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Stewartstown, PA. Posts: 791 My Car: 2008 Prius Model: Package: #4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	Oil Filter - FRAM I an anticipating to change my oil and oil filter next month. Is there anyone using the FRAM oil filter PH4967? When I did a search, there was a talk about a oil drain gasket? Should this be replaced everytime the oil is changed?

12-20-2007, 07:23 PM	#2
Rae Vynn Tree-hugging Vegan Witch Join Date: May 2007 Location: Grays Harbor, WA, USA Posts: 4,160 My Car: 2007 Prius Model: N/A Package: Base Thanks: 258 Thanked 62 Times in 52 Posts Friends: 66	Re: Oil Filter - FRAM NO NO NO NO... do not use FRAM, please!! If you do a search on "Oil change" you'll find TONS of information on oil changes... which filters are best, how often to change the oil plug gasket, and what oils people are using. There is even a photo tutorial around here, somewhere. Trust me about the filter, though... just say No to fram...

12-20-2007, 10:17 PM	#3
paprius4030 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Pocono's, Pa. Posts: 1,297 My Car: 2008 Prius Model: Package: #2 Thanks: 1 Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts Friends: 1	Re: Oil Filter - FRAM Why do you say Fram's are no good? What about their air filter, I see they are now making one that fits the Prius?

12-20-2007, 10:32 PM	#4
N3FOL Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Stewartstown, PA. Posts: 791 My Car: 2008 Prius Model: Package: #4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	Re: Oil Filter - FRAM Rae Vynn, just curious why don't you want FRAM? I've used FRAM on all of my vehicles. My 95 Taurus SHO has 162K and still running strong as ever. My 96 QUEST that replaced my Prius had 165K and never required a major valve adjustment. I'll do my research on this anyway...If I can get an OEM oil filter from my dealership for less that $4.44 (price I paid for the FRAM) or equal to that...I'll settle for a Toyota filter.

12-20-2007, 11:50 PM	#6
Rae Vynn Tree-hugging Vegan Witch Join Date: May 2007 Location: Grays Harbor, WA, USA Posts: 4,160 My Car: 2007 Prius Model: N/A Package: Base Thanks: 258 Thanked 62 Times in 52 Posts Friends: 66	Re: Oil Filter - FRAM amazing. You'll "settle" for a $4 filter for a car that: a) only needs oil changes every 5K miles b) has the HSD system c) could easily last for 500K miles Seriously, I think paying $5 - $10 for a filter is a small, very cheap price for the peace of mind I have knowing that my engine is as protected as possible. Of course, I also use Mobil1.

12-21-2007, 01:35 AM	#7
dogfriend Human - Animal Hybrid Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Carmichael, CA Posts: 4,971 My Car: 2007 Prius Model: Package: #6 Thanks: 289 Thanked 175 Times in 147 Posts Friends: 11	Re: Oil Filter - FRAM The standard Fram oil filters have garnered a reputation for poor quality construction. A few decades ago they were a quality brand, but compared to other brands, they are inferior in construction. There are a few sites on the internet where people have disected different filters and shown the differences. I don't think this necessarily applies to their air filters; its much more difficult to hide poor quality since the element is easy to inspect. I don't see any reason to buy Fram filters when you can buy Toyota OEM filters for $39.90 / 10 filters with free shipping from Toyota of Dallas. http://www.mrtoyotaparts.com/PD-9091....aspx?MakeID=1 __________________ My friends Dingo and Digby

12-21-2007, 07:14 AM	#8
dorf Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Little Rock Posts: 119 My Car: 2007 Prius Model: Package: #2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	Re: Oil Filter - FRAM Ditto ...on all of the above about Fram. 10-15 Years ago while shopping for oil filters, the "Parts Girl" at a NAPA store had a display with the filters cut apart. NAPA Gold had about three times more filtering material than Fram. I've been using NAPA since then and WIX when not avail. No problems !!!! I'll buy the Toyota Filter and Gasket.......Just say NO to FRAM !!!

12-21-2007, 07:17 AM	#9
patsparks An Aussie perspective Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Adelaide South Australia Posts: 9,276 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: N/A Package: Base Thanks: 133 Thanked 185 Times in 143 Posts Friends: 33	Re: Oil Filter - FRAM I also won't use Fram, I use genuine. Small price to pay for a long peaceful life.

12-21-2007, 08:08 AM	#10
Rangerdavid Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Boone, North Carolina Posts: 1,264 My Car: 2006 Prius Model: Package: #5 Thanks: 1 Thanked 9 Times in 6 Posts Friends: 25	Re: Oil Filter - FRAM me too here, oil changes done at the Toyota dealer, Toyota filter and synthetic oil.