Slip indicator comes on when at a full stop

[ratpack]

So it has happened to be twice. I am at a full stop with the brake depressed and the slip indicator light comes on. I searched and saw this posted by Tideland Prius back in March

"Hill-Start Assist. This feature is also found on the Highlander Hybrid but I haven't heard anyone talk about it. It is activated by pressing the brake pedal completely past a threshold. The car will beep and the “Slip Indicator” will blink. Release the pedal and the brakes will continue to hold for 1 second. Before H-SA releases the brake, it will beep twice and the slip indicator will stop blinking. I usually depress the brake pedal fully after I've come to a complete stop and no one could tell me why there was a beep and why the VSC Slip Indicator was blinking. Kudos to Miss Mei (I hope I got the name right) at the LA event who informed me of this feature"

I am not sure if I am unknowingly activating the hill start feature.

Any thoughts?

[MikeDS]

If you're pushing the brake down pretty far it will turn on the hill assist. Let go and press again and it will turn off...

[Paradox]

Sounds like you are to me. I can't imagine why the slip indicator would light if you are at a stop.

Try stopping without pressing so hard on the brakes and see if it doesn't happen. Then, stop and push down hard and make the hill start come on. That should tell you if it is the hill start you are enabling.

[DetPrius]

The car beeps when hill start assist engages. I find it takes quite a bit of pedal press after stopped to engage it. It should be difficult to accidentally engage it without knowing it.

[quantumslip]

yep I've done the same thing too, even on a perfectly flat road

[accordingly]

Happens to me every once in a while. No beeps or hills to be seen, and the indicator light comes on and stays on solid. This is not the hill assist.

I talked to my salesman and he said other Toyota models have the same issue and nobody can figure it out.

[Tideland Prius]

Originally Posted by ratpack

So it has happened to be twice. I am at a full stop with the brake depressed and the slip indicator light comes on. I searched and saw this posted by Tideland Prius back in March

"Hill-Start Assist. This feature is also found on the Highlander Hybrid but I haven't heard anyone talk about it. It is activated by pressing the brake pedal completely past a threshold. The car will beep and the “Slip Indicator” will blink. Release the pedal and the brakes will continue to hold for 1 second. Before H-SA releases the brake, it will beep twice and the slip indicator will stop blinking. I usually depress the brake pedal fully after I've come to a complete stop and no one could tell me why there was a beep and why the VSC Slip Indicator was blinking. Kudos to Miss Mei (I hope I got the name right) at the LA event who informed me of this feature"

I am not sure if I am unknowingly activating the hill start feature.

Any thoughts?

Thanks for using the search function!


Yeah if you come to a stop and press the brake pedal all the way down (past a click), you've activated HSA. The Slip Indicator will blink while it's activated.

So how do you test it? let go of the brake pedal (but don't press the accelerator yet). If it still blinks and your car isn't moving forward, HSA has been activated. After 2 seconds, you'll hear two beeps and the car will start moving forward. If all of that happens, you can be pretty sure you've engaged HSA all this time.

(try it in an empty parking lot first)

[ratpack]

Originally Posted by accordingly

Happens to me every once in a while. No beeps or hills to be seen, and the indicator light comes on and stays on solid. This is not the hill assist.

I talked to my salesman and he said other Toyota models have the same issue and nobody can figure it out.

So I tried the hill assist and that seems to work fine.

What I experienced was not hill assist. There was no beep and the slip indicator did not blink. The brake did chatter a little. Very small vibrations in the pedal. I have had this on other cars too, where the friction is just giving way to forward motion.

I will see if it happens again, then contact my dealer.

Thanks

[eglmainz]

Originally Posted by ratpack

So I tried the hill assist and that seems to work fine.

What I experienced was not hill assist. There was no beep and the slip indicator did not blink. The brake did chatter a little. Very small vibrations in the pedal. I have had this on other cars too, where the friction is just giving way to forward motion.

I will see if it happens again, then contact my dealer.

Thanks

The Hill Start Assist should only be able to be activated when you are at a full stop. It is the same indicator light on the dashboard as the 'traction control' light, but with "Hill Start Assist", it will beep once when set (and if you un-set it), as an audio warning. Then, once you remove your foot from the brake, it will keep your brakes applied (and the brake lights on), until the first of two things occur. a 2 second delay from the time you lift your foot off the brake, or you accelerate sufficiently to push against the brakes, which will cause them to release, and you start going.

As I have posted on another post here regarding the Hill Brake Assist, it is also very useful when stuck in traffic, as I will simply activate the Hill Start Assist, and then only apply minimal pressure to the brake pedal to keep the car from creeping forward. This allows me to use a lot less pressure on the brake pedal for the duration of that stop, and until it is time to roll again, if only for a few feet. I have found it to greatly reduce fatigue when you are stuck in st and go traffic, where you have to be at a stop for almost as much as you creep along. (I just wish that the BRIGHT FLASHING LIGHT, especially at night, was not so DAMN BRIGHT, that every car near me must thing a warning indicator is flashing impending doom.)

[meannotgreen]

Originally Posted by eglmainz

I have found it to greatly reduce fatigue when you are stuck in st and go traffic, where you have to be at a stop for almost as much as you creep along.

I don't know if there's any reason why you shouldn't do this, but in a stop and creep situation if the road is flat I just flick the shift between D and N and hardly touch the brake at all if I judge the amount of D correctly.