New AWD Prius...

[patandrich]

The Gen III just came out this year, why would toyota be talking about an AWD Prius?
Thats because it is not Toyota!!! The new AWD prius will be called the SUbaru Prius, thats right Subaru..
For many that do not know, Toyota owns 16% of the Japanese Company Subaru. As a matter of fact Subaru has the worlds best AWD system and the Boxer engine, which toyota bought from Subaru 2 years ago.
So for the new prius, it will be an AWD vehicle with a lithium ion battery.
--For the record-- I sell subaru, so i have been to meeting on this vehicle already* They say it will be out by 2012 or 2013--

Anyway it will have the features of the current prius, plus some, the Hybrid S. D. that toyota has invnted, and the AWD and handeling of a subaru. This will redefine the prius.

You will have equal or greater gas mileage with the lithium ion battery, that will either have the same regenerative properties as the current prius, or will be a plug in. If it is a plug in, the battery will go from dead to full in just 15 minutes on a 120 volt outlet.
I just wanted to let everyone know what is comming up.
PS If you dont know what ity is like to drive a subaru just go to a local dealer for a test drive, no one says you have to buy!

Any comments are welcome as well as thoughts and suggestions for the new Subaru Prius.. Also who thinks it will be a bust, or another trophy winner!!!

[efusco]

The Gen III just came out this year, why would toyota be talking about an AWD Prius?
Thats because it is not Toyota!!! The new AWD prius will be called the SUbaru Prius, thats right Subaru..
For many that do not know, Toyota owns 16% of the Japanese Company Subaru. As a matter of fact Subaru has the worlds best AWD system and the Boxer engine, which toyota bought from Subaru 2 years ago.
So for the new prius, it will be an AWD vehicle with a lithium ion battery.
--For the record-- I sell subaru, so i have been to meeting on this vehicle already* They say it will be out by 2012 or 2013--

Anyway it will have the features of the current prius, plus some, the Hybrid S. D. that toyota has invnted, and the AWD and handeling of a subaru. This will redefine the prius.

You will have equal or greater gas mileage with the lithium ion battery, that will either have the same regenerative properties as the current prius, or will be a plug in. If it is a plug in, the battery will go from dead to full in just 15 minutes on a 120 volt outlet.
I just wanted to let everyone know what is comming up.
PS If you dont know what ity is like to drive a subaru just go to a local dealer for a test drive, no one says you have to buy!

Any comments are welcome as well as thoughts and suggestions for the new Subaru Prius.. Also who thinks it will be a bust, or another trophy winner!!!

Source or idle speculation?

[patandrich]

Originally Posted by efusco

Source or idle speculation?

Well i did find a few items on the world wide web
I was also at subaru training for the new 2010 Legacy and outback where they discussed it for about 15 minutes, as far as dates mileage and other features i am in the dark with the rest...

[Tideland Prius]

well if what you said is true, that's pretty awesome. Although.... it's not gonna be symmetrical AWD, right? That requires a centre diff... a Subaru Prius would probably use a rear elec. motor.

[patandrich]

Originally Posted by Tideland Prius

well if what you said is true, that's pretty awesome. Although.... it's not gonna be symmetrical AWD, right? That requires a centre diff... a Subaru Prius would probably use a rear elec. motor.

Well.. the follwoing is only a speculatio..
On the 2010 SUbaru outback and legacy they now have CVT trans, It is the worlds first longitudily mounted cvt as a center differential, so i am going to assume it WILL BE symetrical AWD by using the CVT as the center dif as subaru currently does... My only questions is the gas mileage... Also the handeling ahhh i cant wait, i love the prius and the subaru ride, when you add them together.. what a combo...
Almost forgot about the rear electric motor, my oly thought is waht happens in the rare even lol, that the rear wheels do slip?? Will that destroy the electric motor? These are thing i would like to hear about...

[efusco]

Originally Posted by patandrich

Well.. the follwoing is only a speculatio..
On the 2010 SUbaru outback and legacy they now have CVT trans, It is the worlds first longitudily mounted cvt as a center differential, so i am going to assume it WILL BE symetrical AWD by using the CVT as the center dif as subaru currently does... My only questions is the gas mileage... Also the handeling ahhh i cant wait, i love the prius and the subaru ride, when you add them together.. what a combo...

The prius doesn't really have a CVT...they call it an eCVT, but it really isn't so I don't think there'll be any interchangability there.

Almost forgot about the rear electric motor, my oly thought is waht happens in the rare even lol, that the rear wheels do slip?? Will that destroy the electric motor? These are thing i would like to hear about...

The rear electric motor won't break from slippage and would have a traction control/over-speed protection just as it does on the Highlander Hybrid with MGR.

[patandrich]

Originally Posted by efusco

The prius doesn't really have a CVT...they call it an eCVT, but it really isn't so I don't think there'll be any interchangability there.

The rear electric motor won't break from slippage and would have a traction control/over-speed protection just as it does on the Highlander Hybrid with MGR.

Ok, thats understandable. I am not to familiar with the other toyota hybrids and their features..

now let me ask you this... will the electric motor be able to be in sync with the symetrical AWD
The way it works is like this: Where ever power is needed most is where it is sent but even the wheels on the same axle can spin at different speeds, then if you still cant get out of the snow, just hit the VDC switch and it locks those 2 wheels together for the "normal" AWD condition .. This is one of the many things they will have to work out, also which will add more wait, we dont need anymore weight

[a64pilot]

Not going to be much battery if it will go from dead to full in 20 min. from a 15 to20 amp outlet. Wonder what else may not be correct.

[SlowTurd]

i've had 5 subarus over the past 12 years.

i kept screaming to bring on the hybrid they had 4 years ago.

they didn't.

it was projected to get 42mpg and 0-60 in 7.5 seconds

this news is not new.



i bailed to a prius.




and there have been hint's of Subaru maybe hitting the Toyota parts bin for a hybrid.



http://green-cars.blogspot.com/2005/...scrambler.html

[patandrich]

Originally Posted by a64pilot

Not going to be much battery if it will go from dead to full in 20 min. from a 15 to20 amp outlet. Wonder what else may not be correct.

That may be true for a regular battery such as the nicle cadium, but we are talking about a lithium ion, these batteries hold larger charges and give more power over longer periods of time... I dont know what they will do but i am eager to find out