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    CharlesH CA HOV Decal #00005

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    No Plug-in Hybrid App for Blackberry

    I just asked Erica from Toyota in a PM, and she confirmed that the Plug-in Hybrid Apps for the Advanced package will not be supported on Blackberries (only iOS and Android). So we Blackberry users, who value old fashioned things like security on our phones, are screwed yet again...:mad:

    (referring to the news item about applications on iPhones sending contact lists without permission)
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    I learned a long time ago that the only thing certain in life is change. Though it may cost me money, I just go with the flow. Right now the flow with smart phones is with Android and iOS.
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    Paradox Prius Enthusiast / Moderator

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    I left BB 2 years ago for Android and have not looked back.
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    CharlesH CA HOV Decal #00005

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    My college-age son has an Android phone, and mentioned that Blackberry is a one-trick pony (e-mail/messaging). Unfortunately for me, I couldn't care less about music and streaming video and Angry Birds; it's that e-mail/messaging trick that I care about, and I guess that is more important to me than being able to turn on my car air conditioner remotely.

    Hopefully, I will at at least be able to use the Bluetooth phone functionality in my new PiP with my very nice new touch-screen BB :(
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    Re: No Plug-in Hybrid App for Blackberry

    It is a great opportunity to sign up with another carrier and get an almost free new iPhone 4S. I switched to Sprint 4G not to long ago.
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    I used to have a BB and gave up 2 years ago. Add it to the list of companies that excelled at technology, but failed at marketing. Netflix and other majors are not interested in pursuing BB any more either.
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    DianneWhitmire High PRIUStess

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    I have never had a Blackberry but loved my Palm Pre for a couple years. I got dragged into iPhone world a yesar ago and now I have two - my own Print PCS iPhone 4S (love my Siri) and my workphone iPhone 4. Both are great. I am a Mac person at home anyway, but I love how the two iPhones pair to one in-ear Plantronics bluetooth headset.

    I think what I don't like about Entune is the iPhone needs the USB plug to do some things. It will use the bluetooth for most everything but the USB is needed for APPS?

    Oh well. Don't get me started on Entune. I am sure I will learn to love it but as dealerships, the training on this system is epic FAIL. Our training is not detailed enough and we really don't get to try it real time with someone around to walk us thru the steps or process to explain things.

    Anyone who has been here with their Prius and had my regular NAV delivery with instructions and phone pairing knows that I know this old system like the back of my hand. The new Entune, pffft. It's just practice and some good ol' training needed.
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    It's amazing how BB has fallen. They remind me Nokia.

    (And I assume there will also not be a WF7 Entune app either)
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    CharlesH CA HOV Decal #00005

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    According to Erica, the plug-in hybrid apps (like the remote air conditioning and battery maintenance) will only be for iOS and Android. The media stuff (like Pandora) may or may not be supported with Blackberry (it was in 2011, but the Entune application in the Blackberry Appworld does not support newer phones). There is no mention of any other platform.
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    I love my iPhone and am glad it will work with my new PiP.
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    lensovet Not your typical youngin :)/BP Brigade 207

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    I think it's completely ludicrous that they aren't supporting my amazing Palm Pilot from a few years ago, or the Palm Pre for that matter.

    lol, is this really a surprise to anyone?
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    CharlesH CA HOV Decal #00005

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    Was this meant seriously or cynically? The Blackberry was supported in the 2011 version of Entune, and is still valued by people for whom e-mail and messaging and security of private data are the most important factors in a smart phone.

    But arguments about smartphone platforms are off topic for this forum, so I think I will leave it at that before the moderator yanks this thread.
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    lensovet Not your typical youngin :)/BP Brigade 207

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    of course cynically. why would you expect support for a platform that makes up less than 5% of new device purchases in the last quarter? especially when it's a dying platform, rather than one that's expected to take off in the near future.

    i think the people who value "email and messaging" need to seriously reconsider. the iPhone 4S is much more secure than the original iPhone, and I would suspect that my typing speed beats yours any day.
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    Let me clarify, the normal Entune apps are available to most Blackberry users, of course some phones won't support it, but you can check for compatibility on toyota.com/entune site (use for ex the Prius v if the Plug-in phones aren't listed yet). Those apps include things like Bing, Open Table, iHeartRadio, MovieTickets and Pandora and some data services (traffic, fuel prices etc etc).

    The special Plug-in Hybrid apps that are available on the Advanced Pip grade are only supported with compatible Android and Apple phones. A list should be available any day now online.

    Here's the link to the PiP Apps if you haven't seen it:
    Prius Plug-in Hybrid Advanced

    Thanks,
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    CharlesH CA HOV Decal #00005

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    Yes, the Toyota Entune site has now been updated to include Blackberries for the 2012 cars. But none of the Blackberries released in the last two years (running BB OS6 or OS7) are on the list. And indeed, when I point my Torch 9850 to the Blackberry AppWorld site, it says that the Entune App is not supported on that model.
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    lensovet Not your typical youngin :)/BP Brigade 207

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    (again, 5% of new model sales. how is it worth Toyota's time to bother supporting these phones?)
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    CharlesH CA HOV Decal #00005

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    Could you point me to your source? I am not questioning you; I would just like to see the overall numbers.
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    New sales might not be the best metric to use here. I'd suggest perhaps looking at what phone current or prospective owners of cars with Entune have globally.

    Personally, I'd love to switch off of Blackberry, but my employer only supports Blackberry; and for my personal device international travel makes a Blackberry on TMO with the ability to turn international BIS on and off when traveling the only cost effective option.

    So count me as displeased that the advanced pip entune features won't be supported on Blackberry (and it seems just about any features are not supported on the newer OS 7 devices).
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    lensovet Not your typical youngin :)/BP Brigade 207

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    okay, good that these stats just came out today: RIM accounts for <15% of all smartphone handsets in the US (not new purchases, but total installed base). Android Tops 50%, iOS Hits 30% in U.S. Smartphone Installed User Base - Mac Rumors
    these cars are designed for the future, not for the past. don't worry, in another couple of years, your employer will transition to iOS, and you wouldn't want to replace your car then, right? it just doesn't make any sense to spend developer effort on supporting what is clearly a dying platform.

    side note: iOS lets you turn off data when roaming as well. even better, you can turn off GSM completely and just use wifi when you're traveling, so you still have access to your email without having to pay a dime.

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