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Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by Rybold, Jan 9, 2012.
Volkswagen unveils hybrid version of top-selling Jetta at Detroit auto show - The Washington Post
If it's anything like the last two VW's I've owned, I'll stick with the Prius.
cool first turbo hybrid that will go for efficiency. I would put the tch in the segment though, so first sub 9 seconds 0-60 is just wrong. Its good to have another player in the mpg game:rockon:
It will be interesting to see reviews, it looks like a car that should be able to hypermile well.
That sounds like one complicated transmission. Give me a PSD anyday.
VW turbo is liable to put many people off but the transmission should mean excellent highway performance.
Seems like typical assist hybrid, but with a couple of clutches for more efficient operation.
And that article mentioned the EV limit but missed the two more important things:
- It can glide up 84mph
- It has foot-off gliding
Basically, VW has two DSG transmissions, a 6-speed, wet clutch and a 7-speed, dry clutch. They both tend to have problems. My '09 had the 6-speed and was on the third mechatronics unit ( valve body ) when I got rid of it.
A VW with Toyota reliability would be a winner.:rockon:
I do not really like VWs, but know a number of woman that do. Its good to give them a hybrid choice with this fuel economy.
I expect that vw wanted the feel of higher torque which is why they chose a turbo instead of an atkinson. I know that they are planning to make a version of the 1.4 tsi that has 2-cylinder deactivation. Hypermilimg at a fairly constant 30mph this will act like a 0.7l 2 cylinder turbo. The electric motor should smooth this out and provide excellent fuel economy. Certainly many will not want a vw or a turbo, for for those that do this is a good option, ... that is if its priced competitively.
Ooh, now they're talking. Hypermilers who don't like executing NICE-OFF glides can now join the hardcore.
as i said in other thread, autobild tested q5 with similar setup, to rx450h awd, and rx was faster, bigger and got 25% better mpg in real life despite official numbers being the same.
q5 has 211 hp 4cly turbo, 8 speed at and lion batteries... it was also not smooth.
Exactly. This is a way inferior technology compared to PSD. It lacks simplicity and elegance PSD has and it's less efficient.
Here is more coverage on the Jetta: 2013 Volkswagen Jetta Hybrid at the 2012 Detroit Auto Show - KickingTires
I, too, would be leery of the technology. At least, Prius gives you a bullet-proof transmission, making up for any increased expense exposure with the traction battery.
Except, potentially, at highway speed. Given the stated upper limit of the pure high-speed glide it's obviously geared to highway driving,
We will see the tests soon I guess... I bet it wont be good. Fusion/Mondeo Hybrid seems like it will do much better in real life.
I mean this thing has single 27hp electric motor... it is not going to get good real life mpg.
VW electric gremlins + hybrid, what can go wrong? Will be fun watching VW hybrid and VW TDI fans savage each other over which is better.
It could be worse. Try Peugeot + hybrid!
And one day someone at Range Rover is going to decide a hybrid option would be a good idea
Admittedly I do not drive like most Merkins, but I might drive like most people who care about fuel economy, and have an understanding of fuel saving techniques: on the highway I try to find the constant engine load that smooths out the elevation ups and downs. Meaning I tolerate more speed variation in order to avoid high engine load. 'Glide' at higher speeds is not an advantage for my highway driving, or at best a minor one.
1.4-liter turbocharged gas engine, which produces 150 horsepower and 184 pound-feet of torque.
seven-speed dual-clutch automatic transmission
OK I'll bite dutchman who had a 7 speed dsg automated manual in '97 in something under $100K?