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Wheel Stuck on Car; Won't come off

Discussion in 'Gen II Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by cyberpriusII, Apr 10, 2011.

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  1. cyberpriusII

    cyberpriusII Active Member

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    The left driver's side wheel is "stuck." The car is up on the jack, the lug nuts are all off, but the wheel will not come off.

    I've hit the tire with my hands and have pulled and yanked, but being that it's on the jack, don't want to pull too hard.

    I can take it into the shop tommorrow, I guess, but is this a sign of anything serious?

    ***EKKK*** I just saw a recent post about a rusted on hub? Is this the same thing. All I am trying to do is change the tire???****
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    That is usually a corrosion (Oregon Loctite:D) problem.

    Put the lug nuts back on, then loosen them several turns.

    Then drive the car back and forth a few times (3 or 4 mph is enough) and jab the brakes hard to stop each time. That should brake the wheel loose so then you can jack the car up and take it off.

    Don't drive the car on the road with the lug nuts loose:eek:

    When you put the wheel back on, wire brush away any corrosion and put a little grease or anti-seize where the aluminum wheel contacts the steel hub.
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    I had an 85' Maxima for my first car, same problem. I had to leave a rubber mallet in the trunk in case I had a flat, it was necessary to get the wheel off. If you hit the tire with the mallet from the 'backside' it should release.
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    I use xs650's technique, except I've not had to resort to rolling the car. Usually the wheel will break loose as you drop the car back down. One time I had to actually settle it completely on the floor, and then give a downward push or two on that corner, before it broke free.
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    They did that on my 07 after one year. Like the last poster said I just loosened the nuts up and dumped the jack and they popped off.

    I greased the tire/wheel mating surface real good with synthetic grease and after bolting it up wiped off the excess and 3 years later when I went to rotate the tires they came right off.

    When the tire is off the car push off the center cap from behind and leave it off. Mount the tire and fill that center cap well with grease and then pop the center cap back on. Keeps the hub nut from getting really rusted on. Did you see hoiw rusted that was?
    No grease leaked out to get on the rotor either.
    Big galvanic action there with disimilar metal.

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    THANKS EVERYONE!

    Opps, sorry for the shout-out!! Just happy for the advice. I went to Portland yesterday afternoon to catch a concert and did not get back until early this a.m., so have not had a chance to try out the advice given.

    But, I have the day off, it's sunny -- sort of -- calm, and the temperature is nudging 43 degrees right now at 9 a.m. -- that's almost high summer:p

    Anyway, I'm going out in a few months -- opps minutes -- and give the "loose nuts" treatment a try (there are so many ways you can go with that phrase....:rolleyes:).

    I like the mallet suggestion, but just afraid to try any real force with the car being supported only by the little jack.

    And, yes, our weather does lend itself to auto-locking together any bits of metal. But here's the thing, I thought the wheels are "alloy." Doesn't that mean they don't rust?

    Ah, well, if this "rock and roll" idea doesn't work, I'll be back!:)
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    When you do get the wheel off....and you will with a little sweat maybe,anyhoo,before you put it back on,use a wire brush to clean off around the hub and apply a little grease and give the inside of the centre of the wheel itself a rub,it'll help the next time especially if you're stranded on a motorway with a flat.
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    Alloy just means that they are mix of two or more metals and possibly other elements. You will never find wheels made from pure aluminum, they would be too weak.

    The problem is that aluminum (the wheel) and iron or steel (the hub) have different values on the galvanic scale which is some 25 cent words for saying they form a battery when wet and that causes them to corrode and adhere to each other
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    Huh, thanks for the clarification. My mountain bike has alloy wheels, just because they won't rust and they WILL -- usually -- stop in the rain...I really did not know that about the Prius wheels. Surprised Toyo didn't harness that bit of charge also. :)

    So, if anyone cares, I went out, froze as the temp dipped to about 34 degrees and hail came bucketing down and wind gusts hit about 40 mph. I was worried about the jack.

    But, followed advice, backed out hit brakes, speeded up and hit brakes again and I could "feel" it all break loose. So, all is good!

    Thanks again, everyone. Kristi
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    Loose nuts and hard braking usually loosen my wheels. But the last time I couldn't take off 2 stuck rear (alloy) wheels, I went to a tire shop. They hit the wheels out (no nuts) from inside with a 3-foot sledge hammer, while rear end was on a jack. I'm thinking of buying a sledge hammer so next time I can remove the wheels myself. I change wheels twice a year on two cars (summer & winter tires on separate rims). I worry about damaging my wheels with sledge hammer, but that seemed to be the only way that time. Any thoughts?
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    Use of a sledge hammer is really a last resort. You should first try more subtle approaches, like loosening the lug nuts and applying the brakes as previously suggested. Or raise up the corner of the car with a hydraulic floor jack, then drop it down with the lug nuts loose. Or kick the tire with your shoe-clad foot when the corner of the car is securely raised up with a jackstand.

    Once you have the wheels loose then it would be a good idea to lubricate the hub face and wheel interior with a small amount of high temp grease since you know that this will be an ongoing problem.
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    I also would NOT be using a sledge hammer to beat on your wheels (NOW - if you can hit ONLY the tire from the inside - maybe :) )!!! You WILL damage them.
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    I've used the big hammer on the inside to knock a stuck wheel loose, but I don't hit the wheel, that would really damage an alloy wheel, but it really works well if you hit the tire. I have had to rotate the tire and hit in several locations around the tire, but it always works.
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    Rubber mallet did the trick for me.
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    Also first block the vehicle from rolling.
    Release the emergency brake.
    And no one inside stepping on the brakes, either.
    Just wanted to be complete.
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    Haiku. Nice.
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