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Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by kashifgjr, Jun 1, 2012.

  1. kashifgjr

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    My car is showing 2 lights on the screen one is Red Triangle and 2nd is ((!)).
    I went to the mechanic he scanned it and said your HV battery is not Bad, i took my car to other mechanic, he also scan it and P0AA6 code came, he said HV battery is ok, he reset the lights and test drive the car without Air Conditioner after that no light came back. He said there is a fault in compressor and ask me to drive it without A/C for couple of days then we will look into the compressor.

    Does any one know what is exact problem????
     
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    I check 12 volt battery its fine.
    Car does ignite but ready light is not coming on.
     
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    Define "fine". What are the voltages at each step?
     
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    before ignition 12.1
    after ignition 12.3-12.4
     
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    P0AA6 is a 'hybrid battery voltage system isolation fault'. The car will drive normally until you turn it off, then it won't go into READY. It indicates that the car thinks that there's a possibility of shock from the HV battery, because there was an unexpected voltage drop somewhere in the system.
     
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    Thanks
    But in case of
    P0AA6 is a 'hybrid battery voltage system isolation fault'
    what we need to do????
     
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    The air conditioner compressor has an electric motor and is powered by the inverter. Since your mechanic believes that the AC compressor has the ground fault, he asked you to drive the car for a few days without using the AC, to see whether the P0AA6 DTC comes back.

    If that fault code does not reappear then that is evidence that your mechanic is right. If the fault code comes back that is evidence that some other component exposed to high voltage has the ground fault.
     
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    Thanks Patrick
    Yes i have driven my car without AC for about 200 km and no warning came back and after 5-10 mins of turning the AC on the red triangle Warning Light with ((!)) light came back and when i turn off my car i does not start untill i take the terminal out and put it back after few mins.

    Now if fault is with compressor then is it repairable or i have to replace it.
    Please do let me know.

    Thanks
     
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    Assuming that the AC compressor has a ground fault, you will need to replace it. The electric motor within probably has a winding insulation failure causing the problem.

    By the way, I'm impressed that your mechanic was able to figure this out so quickly - I don't imagine there are many Prius in Pakistan.
     
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    Have you had any work done on the air con "gas top up or refill" if so this could be the problem if the wrong oil was used. Oil should be ND11 and nothing else.

    If the wrong oil was used a flush and refill may work but not guaranteed.
     
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    So many people are importing Prius from Japan here and in some of them AC fault came since last month might be because of very hot weather here, and if i have to replace compressor then i will have to import it from japan.
     
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    Thanks Brit
    Yes one mechanic has done work on AC as it stop working earlier and he refill the gas as well but i dont know about the oil and by the way is it engine oil (ND11).
     
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    No ND11 oil is a special oil for the Prius and "other hybrids" air con system, if the wrong oil is used or even possibly equipment that has had other types of air con oil can contaminate the Prius system.

    The problem is that the oil used basically must not conduct electricity, if it does it conducts electricity from the compressor motor windings to ground "the car body" this then causes a fault code to be output as in your case.

    I would take the car back to the place you had the work done and get them to correct it or pay to have it corrected by someone that knows what they are doing.

    Although a flush and refill may work it may not, then it will get very expensive very quickly with possibly the whole system having to be replaced.

    The oil is available in small quantities from a company called Interdynamics.

    John.
     
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    Thanks John
    I just called my mechanic and he said yes he did change the compressor oil and he didn't use ND11
    Now shall i change the oil or what else
    i'm really worried because i have just purchased this car about 1 month ago.
     
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    You can try to have the system purged of refrigerant and compressor oil, and install the correct refrigerant and compressor oil (which is pretty expensive by the way.) However it is likely that the evaporator, condenser and compressor will all have to be replaced since they are all contaminated - so this may be a case of pouring more money down the drain without return.
     
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    Get him to drain the system as soon as possible and refill with the correct oil, to see if this cures the problem. If it does all's well and good, if it does not do it again.

    If that does not cure the problem the compressor, condenser, and evaporator will all have to be changed.

    I have the manual for the system but for some reason I can no longer attach files to posts. Keep an eye on hear and I will keep trying.

    I seem to have after 600 posts become a new member.

    John.
     
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    Ok i need to arrange ND11 oil 1st.
    But if i carry on driving without AC then there wont be any problem?
    Till i get my problem solved