Hypothetical question - PiP Potential 90% Hwy Commute

In your situation, I would go for it.

 

Can you charge at work? And what are your electric rates?

 

Mrbigh,

Off Topic - have you ever noticed that whenever someone is mentioned from Long Island, they very rarely state their actual town and just say Long Island? As you know it has over 3 million people and that not including B & Q. Why don't you put your actual town? Just a thought!

 

now matter what the driving situation, the battery is still stored energy which can be utilized by the car up to a 85-90% efficiency from the wall which is up to 3X more efficient than a best case gas scenario. Also, CA power for the most part is pretty green, so the more you use electricity, the cleaner it will be. as far as cost? well, that depends. some places in CA its prohibitively expensive but most have good TOU rates for late night charging

 

I assume the question was directed to me, Yes I do.
At my work place, the most we are wasting is electric energy; and we are dealing with greats amounts.

 

If you can charge at work, you'll be running 25 miles or so per day on electricity. Add the carpool lane sticker (CA) and it looks like a winner.

And if you're even considering trading in a 2012 Prius Three, you probably would enjoy having the latest toy - er, technology.

In fairness you should also consider the Volt; the EV range is a better match (although a full recharge at work would take 10 hours, but you'd get close). Me, I just would rather own a Prius - so I do.

 

someone did a pretty good chart on how far you had to drive to justify a PiP over a Volt. if you can charge on both ends, the Volt wins. if you cannot, the PiP wins due to much higher gas mileage

 

Actually, it was for the OT, since that info would play into some answers.

 

Well, in the previous version of PC it was not sufficient space on the user's personal details to type all I wanted to type. Now it's different story; I included my town also, I'm a proud Babylonian.

 

king tut?

 

If all miles were equal and you get 12 miles AER and no added regen:
-no charge at work: (50-12) = 38 miles on gas at 60 mpg, so 50/(38/60) = 79 mpg
-charge at work: (50-24) = 26 miles on gas at 60 mpg, so 50/(26/60) = 115 mpg

In practice, you might use the EV on easier miles, meaning less than 60 mpg on gas miles, but you should also get more regen than your current car, so hard to say...

Payback may not be great on gas savings alone, but you also gain a short trip EV, a HOV sticker, etc.

 

can you put a value on fun? you know dianne will make you a great deal!

 

Maybe we will see each other on the SSP sometime. I commute to Bethpage.

 

10hours is about the max on 120v. Mine rarely takes more than 8 hours.. (it depends on temps and actual line voltage (120v vs 110v) and such.

If work would do a 240v its 4 hours for a full charge.

Here is an estimate for the Volt compute MPG . First off, if the OP gets 60mpg in the prius they would probably get 42-45mpg highway in a volt. (EPA is 48 for a prius so they get 25% better. EPA for a volt is 40highway, 25% better would be 50 -- but I'll be conservatie and use 42). Same on the charge.. EPA is 35, but an efficient driver can usually get 45-50 in mild temps at 55-65mph. But I'll be conservative and use 40 miles per charge.
If they can get a full charge on both ends
50-40 = 10miles *2 = 20 miles of CS per day /42MPG = .476. gallons per day, = 210MPG.


If the op only gets a partial charge at work, say 8 hours then (4miles of charge per hours = 32miles)
10 miles CS inward trip, and 50-32 = 18 CS home so 28 miles CS per day /42MPG = .66gallons = 150MPG overall.

No charge at work, would mean about 60miles on ICE, 60/42 = 1.43 gallons = 70MPG (i.e. PiP does better).

 

For domestic tranquility and a win-win outcome, go with the PiP!

 

You have a 2012 and want a PIP already? I'm thinking this wouldn't be a wise financial decision.

 

Have you considered an upgrade your existing prius. adding a PHEV kit? It could seriously improve your MPG even if its not in pure EV range. And they can be much cheaper than a new car. Some discussion in this thread
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