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Entune: Get Your $#*%# Notification Off My Android!

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Audio and Electronics' started by bilofsky, Aug 14, 2012.

  1. WE0H

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    Fun reading all the nasties about Entune on Google Play :)

    Mike
     
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    That is what I do not understand. Why are they not motivated to revise the app if majority of the users feel negative towards it? Toyota is known to be an innovator.
     
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    Is there a Toyota development feedback site? They might not have the time to monitor a public blog or forum. Should they? I think so, but I don't work for them so I don't know how things work there :(

    Mike
     
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    There is no separate reporting mechanism for Entune problems - all you can do is follow the standard procedure, either through the form on their website, or by calling support ( 800-331-4331). I'd suggest anyone with Entune/navigation problems do this so that issues are at least on file with corporate.

    However, I reported a well-defined, easily repeatable bug introduced in the Entune update to Toyota back in July, and they're still thinking about it. See this thread.
     
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    Guess it's not worth wasting my time reporting anything. Oh well, guess a car can't be 100% perfect. Sure be nice but...

    Mike [​IMG]
     
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    Don't think so since iPhone users are forced to use USB while Adroid users can use Bluetooth.

    All car navs are crap compared to Garmin. Google maps does a better job also.

    Both work just fine and the internet search has proved very hand. Bing is not as good as Google but it does work letting you find stuff and nav to it. For me, the internet access, traffic, web search with nav/call and Pandora have been an upgrade from Ford's Synch system.[/quote]
     
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    iPad users get to use Bluetooth for Entune (or is that just another ATP only thing). Maybe they changed the iPhone specs after they designed Entune.
     
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    iPad Entunes makes no sense for a car/internet access device.

    Phones are ubiquitous.
     
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    They make mounts for people that use their iPad's in the vehicle :)

    Mike
     
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    And laptops but Entunes is to provide internet access for the nav and radio system in the car on always accessible basis. iPad makes no sense as that access device. Everyone has a cell phone.
     
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    I too would have liked to see Google used as the search engine instead of Bing, but it doesn't matter much the way it is implemented. If the head unit acted more like a tablet and you could search for something and click it using the link and basically search the web from the display google would have been great. But with the current implementation, Bing works just fine to search for something and then have the nav guide you to the search result. I have used it a couple of times and it worked just great. Dare I say better than trying to input info into the nav system on my dads Plug-in Prius base nav system. Just voice search in bing for what you're looking for and have it guide you to the proper result, fast and accurate each time. For me at least...
     
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    I enjoy using my iPad with Entune. I really enjoy only paying $15 per month (250MB) for cellular data. I know it's not enough MB for lots of people, but it works for me.

    My real point was that maybe Apple changed the IPhone tethering function to restricts fine print agreement (human centipede language shown on south park) violations. You would think that Toyota would fix Entune to work with iPhones, but then I think Toyota would/should/must fix a lot of things on Entune and current Nav/voice recognition.
     
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    I have a 2012 Prius Four with the HDD nav. I have never plugged my iPhone 4S or iPad w/4G into USB. Entune works as advertised with both via Bluetooth.

    A good reason to use an iPad for Entune is 24 hour battery life when "tethering". My iPad never comes out of my bag and the battery lasts for days of commuting.

    Note the "works as advertised" does not mean that I think it is a well designed system. There is a LOT of room for improvement.
     
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    Seems like a waste of iPad leaving it in a bag in the car just to provide internet access to the car. As far as the battery life, phone sleeps in the charger, runs all day, no issues there. Plus if you are paying for the iPad 3G and iPhone 3G, it's a waste of money both in the purchase of the device and monthly subscriptions. Get the Wifi only iPad, no costly cell service, get the hotspot option for the phone and it is the internet connection for the car and the iPad.
     
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    Dude - you really made some bad assumptions there. I use my iPad daily as a tool for personal & business use. When I commute and am driving, I can't be using my iPad - that's why it's in my bag (Laptop Bag).

    I have my reasons for having both an iPad & iPhone with data plans. I move a grandfathered, unlimited data SIM between my iPad & a MiFi (mobile hotspot) as needed. My iPhone is always with me and also has an unlimited data plan. With these grandfathered data plans, tethering & mobile hotspot is not available. I also do not want to have to rely on one device being available to use the other online (always having to use an iPhone to get online with a Wi-Fi only iPad).

    And besides - the iPad has days of battery life compared to my typical 1 day battery life on the iPhone. My phone stays in my pocket in the car. I don't like docking/plugging it in & then having to remember to grab it when I leave the car.
     
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    Dude...you said "My iPad never comes out of my bag".
    I'm sure you do but for normal use it makes more sense to have an iPhone with the hotspot option vs. paying extra for 3G enabled iPad ($200) and two cell subscriptions for iPhone ($720/yr) and iPad ($720/yr) which cost way more than iPhone with 5GB hotspot ($1,032/yr).

    Particularly true for this topic about iPhone with Prius to most conveniently enable internet access for the Prius.

    iPad rated 9 hrs 3G internet, iPhone rated 6 hrs 3G internet.

    If you have heavy use on the iPhone, the Mophie battery cases are great for doubling battery life and providing protective case for the iPhone.
     
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    To each their own. You missed the point of my post - iOS devices (iPad & iPhone) both work just fine via Bluetooth for Entune. There is no need to plug them in via USB. I'm just trying to dispel that misconception.

    BTW - rated (and how they are rated) vs. real world (and how they are used) are 2 x different things. The iPad acting JUST as a mobile hotspot (while in my bag when I am commuting), with the screen off, gets 20+ hours of battery life. One tech review article obtained 24 hour with just tethering with a current generation iPad.
     
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    If you call Toyota support they will tell you that iPhones, under no circumstance, will work with Entunes on the Prius except via USB.

    iPhone will work as Bluetooth internet connect if the users has the Tethering/Hotspot service option from their cell carrier but Toyota does not support it. Only the USB connection for iPhones.

    No point dragging an iPad around to use as a hotspot when an iPhone will do the same job.
     
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    I never called Toyota. You believe what you want. It just works as expected. Did you notice in my original post that I have the HDD nav unit? Maybe that is a difference. I also do not have tethering on either of my iOS devices - they both have grandfathered unlimited data plans. Might also be that I am running iOS 6 (beta) on both my iPhone & iPad. Maybe I'll try with my wife's iPhone 4. She has the latest iOS 5.x.

    I gotta wonder - do you have an iPhone? Did YOU ever call Toyota? You seem to make a lot of claims, but don't mention personal experience.

    I'm done here - have fun folks. No more posts from me for this thread unless my wife's iPhone 4 does not work with Entune via Bluetooth. Then I should be able to confirm that it is a difference between iOS 5 & iOS 6.
     
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    I did.
    More what Toyota service says if you ask them about iPhone internet service via Bluetooth. Toyota will tell they only support iPhone/Entunes via USB.

    It's not true and if you do subscribe to tethering/hotpost service via your cell carrier for the iPhone and plug the Entune ID/PWD in on the Prius Bluetooth device setup under DUN/VPS setting, the iPhone will work as Bluetooth internet provider for the Prius...a nice, if unsupported feature.