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Engine over-reving in Cruise Control

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by priusincc, Sep 18, 2012.

  1. priusincc

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    I just completed first road trip (~2300 miles). I noticed that engine over revs in Cruise Control on long down hills. (Like about 10 miles of 6% downgrade from elevation of 7000 ft.) It happened several times and seems to occur only when the battery indicates full; trans is in "D" and Cruise engaged @ ~70MPH; then engine RPM increases to about 4K. The RPM drops off when Cruise disengaged. I don't remember my old Gen II doing this.

    Is this normal? I was thinking it has somthing to do with the full battery, and maybe absorbing the excessive regeneration. Any thoughts?
     
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    Engine braking with a full battery, to keep you from cooking the brake pads and rotors.
     
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    The ECU will protect you engine from "over-revving" so there is no possibility of damaging the engine.. It is just that you are not used to the fact that there is little sound insulation in a Prius and you can hear when it revs up (but well below Red-Line). The other difference is that a normal automatic transmission is obvious when it down shifts (My wife thought her Jetta was broken when it made a jarring downshift going up a steep incline) whereas our eCVT smoothly allows the engine to rev up as needed to supply more power.

    One note however, if this revving up becomes excessive it is a symptom of a failing HV battery. This means that the electric MGs cannot supply sufficient energy from the HV battery for the requested acceleration.

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    Absolutely normal. You are on a long descent, your battery has fully charged so braking won't be by regen, and the car's computer has decided to protect the brakes by using the mechanical resistance of the engine (no fuel being used) to slow down the car. You could cause the same thing yourself by shifting into "B" on another decline. It won't be as dramatic as what you've experienced, but the same activity will occur.
     
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    Thanks all for the feedback. I figured there was a thread on this somewhere, but my search missed it.
    It's a good safety thing, but the reving is a little disconcerting. In my cases, I wasn't even braking.
     
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    If I understand the situation, you were on a 6% slope going a steady 70mph, and you weren't applying the brake. The engine is what was keeping you from accelerating, so it was doing the braking for you.