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Which stations have less ethanal??

Discussion in 'Prius c Main Forum' started by SuperABM, Oct 24, 2012.

  1. SuperABM

    SuperABM Junior Member

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    I've noticed only some gas stations show on the pump how much ethanal they have. What about the gas stations that don't show it? Am I just looking in the wrong place?

    I was at a mobile the other day and it didn't show how much on the pump so I asked the cashier and she said she didn't know.


     
  2. Mr Incredible

    Mr Incredible Chance favors the prepared mind.

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    It's supposed to be labled somewhere. If you don't see it, don't buy it.

    I never buy it, regardless.
     
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    I have noticed this and asked at one station and was pointed to a decal on the side that stated that the gas "May contain as much as 10% ethanol". The attendant had no idea how much ethanol was in there or whether there was any at all. He said they never tell them info like this.
     
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    Most gas stations I've been to don't state how much they have :(
     
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    Is it safe to assume that if its not labeled that they use ethanal free gas? It's not like I'm going to thrifty gas stations, I only go to 76, mobile, Chevron, and shell.
     
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    You are more likely to get a higher percentage of ethanol in mid-grade or premium, since ethanol cost more and is an octane booster.

    In the winter blends, they choose to put less ethanol in Regular.
     
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    Ethanol must be labeled around here. If it isn't labeled as ethanol it should be 100% gasoline, either regular (87 octane) or premium (91 octane). The middle pump button is the ethanol blend with an octane of about 89.

    Some areas must have ethanol in all their blends. This is not one of those areas so I don't know what their pumps look like.
     
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    Thanks for the website. I see now how NC stations get away with the "May contain up to 10%" labels.

    North Carolina - NC (House Bill 187 passed in 2011 now requires labeling but "not enforced".)
     
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    In Canadian Chevron stations there's one label for the lower 3 grades saying "may contain up to 10% ethanol", and the fourth, highest grade label say's "contains no ethanol".
     
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    Guess isolating those gasoline molecules with 8 carbons in the chain without the use or an octane booster like ethanol requires a more expensive process.

    Tetra ethyl lead and MTBE is no longer allowed, so either isolating the 8 carbon chain gasoline molecules or using cheaper grades that include a mixture of 7 or even 6 molecule chain compounds, or ethanol are the approved methods.
     
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    I have a question about ethanol blended fuel. If the price of gas keeps dropping and drops by another 20 cents or so in my area I am considering getting the premium gas here that has NO ethanol in it. It costs 30 cents a gallon more than no lead but I am wondering would I get even better gas mileage? Has anyone ever put premium gas with no ethanol in their tank and did you notice any gas mileage difference?
     
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    Does premium gas have no ethanal?
     
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    Premium has little or no impact on mileage, depending on who is making the argument or doing the empirical testing. But no-ethanol definitely helps mpg a bit. Theoretically, the boost is a bit over 3%, and the controlled tests get about that amount. But numerous users in uncontrolled tests have claimed 10-20% gains.
    It depends on where you are. Many areas have ethanol in all fuel grades.
     
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    ok thank you. Yes only the premium gas here has no ethanol. The regular no lead and super (mid grade) have 10% ethanol here.
     
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    Where do you live Wiscott?
     
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    Too bad for Cali we only have a few in the middle of no where ..