DRCC Freezing

It isn't practical to be constantly on the lookout especially at freeway speeds. I've never had problems with PCS mistaking road debris for an actual vehicle.

 

Lets assume that the system is simply reacting to a set threshold of reflected radar energy. If it's too sensitive, it triggers on 500# of steel grating in the road. If its not sensitive enough, it doesn't react to that bicycle that just went in front of you. Frankly I'm amazed that Toyota is willing to take on the obvious liability of such a system, since it can never be 100% accurate or perfect. But I don't think one should expect Toyota to re-program an entire model line because of one specific set of circumstances encountered by one driver. The system can never be perfect, and I think we all need to deal with it. The manual clearly states a number of circumstances under which the system might be confused, so we've been informed.

 

Grimes,

Come on, how would like having to shut off your cruise control or radio when you come to 'problem locations'?
Like if your car suddenly started accelerating or the radio suddenly went full volume?

This problem is worse than those examples.
This is your car applying the brakes randomly.

How has your ATP system been doing? Do you have to "shut it off at those locations"?
How much did you pay for this system?

(I still really want ATP. I should keep my eyes out for a bargain and sell my Level IV.)
(That's why I'm following this thread.)

 

Have you seen a freeway expansion joint? It is not a large piece of metal protruding from the road. I haven't tried it since I don't have my vehicle, but how will it respond driving over railroad tracks??

 

No reaction to the railroad tracks I drive over daily, given that PCS is active at all times (unless disabled). PCS-only operation has triggered only twice (once during a close call and once during an emergency stop) so it's worked exceedingly well for me.

 

I have a 2013 Prius V-5. Dealer provided a loaner. I picked up my vehicle yesterday and to say the least, was beyond being upset. The specialist "never" came out and was told "wouldn't" be coming out. They didn't do anything to the vehicle ... never drove my car, never drove a similar model for comparison. I dropped it off with 760 miles and picked it up with 761. Before I left, they showed me where the button was located to "turn off" the PCS system. Is that their idea of resolving the issue? Needless to say I filed a complaint through Toyota Corporate, am seeking legal counsel and have contacted the local media (they responded and would like to report on the issue).

 

You go sinner!

Don't let them push your car into the "Too Hard To Do" file.

This is a high tech system, but come on,,, it's not rocket surgery.

Good Luck,

 

I spoke with my case manager at Toyota Corporate. They are sending papers for completion so it can go to arbitration.

Does anyone know "how" the PCS system works? I read the manual and thought when the dealership turned it off, that meant the system was no longer active. It should not continue to see "ghost" objects ... it's suppose to be off.

I was driving yesterday and the seat belts suddenly retracted, HARD. I was going 30 mph and there was nothing in front of me. I was unable to reach anyone at the dealership but left a message asking why that would happen if the PCS was suppose to be off. I believe my system is defective.

 

The dealer showed you where the PCS button (labeled PRE-CRASH) is. When you push it, the PCS warning light comes on. I don't think they actually turned it off.

You should really read the manual and educate yourself on this if it's going to go into arbitration. You sound as clueless as the dealer and that doesn't reflect well on you.

 

32kcolors, does your Prius have the PCS? If so, have you read "your" manual? I read mine and there is nothing defining what to expect when you "turn it off". I'm not an idiot and the definition of OFF is to have something no longer connected. The letters PCS are lit on the dash and per the manual, indicates it "is" off. The question I was asking, or needed clarification, was if "anyone else" with a PCS understood the manual as I did ... that PCS lit on the dash should indicate the system is disengaged and should no longer sound bells, retract the seat belts or slam on the brakes.

 

I don't know about the 2013 manual, but the 2010 manual is pretty clear on this. When it's disabled, "PCS" is displayed in the dash. Retracting the seat belt when you slam hard is a normal function of any modern cars and not indicative of PCS in operation. What PCS does is tighten/pull it further in addition to retracting it and feels just like your kid behind you tugging on your seat belt.

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