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Top 20 MPGe

Discussion in 'Gen 1 Prius Plug-in 2012-2015' started by markabele, Jul 1, 2013.

  1. markabele

    markabele owner of PiP, then Leaf, then Model 3

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    Here are the current combined stats of the Top 20:

    42562 EV miles
    16655 HV miles
    8821 kWh
    276 gallons
    72% EV
    59217 total miles
    101.4 MPGe
    138 EV MPGe
    60 HV MPGe
     
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    Great addition to our individual stats. What do you think about adding/updating this to your first entry? How are we doing compared to our Volt neighbors? Nothing wrong with a healthy rivalry:)
     
  3. markabele

    markabele owner of PiP, then Leaf, then Model 3

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    It would be a lot of work to update both of those things every time someone did an update on their stats. I will just do it in the thread periodically.

    Also, according to Voltstats.net our EV MPGe kicks the crap out of theirs. And we know how bad our HV beats theirs.
     
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    retired4999 Prius driver since 2005

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    I know I can't upgrade myself, my MPGe is probably only about 140 MPGe, but just thought I would share a late fall cool weather post! :)
    085 Nov 17 2013.JPG
     
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    usbseawolf2000 HSD PhD

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    Another 1,000+ tank. This tank has my new commute (20 miles round trip with one charge). The weather is getting colder. I have yet to block my grill

    - 132 MPGe on EV
    - 60 MPG on gas
    - 82.3 MPGe combined

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    Nice.
    Two charges per day would be ideal but I suppose finding a deal of parking + charging spot is asking too much in Manhattan:)
     
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    Ok, last entry until Spring. PiP Ratio.png
     
  8. markabele

    markabele owner of PiP, then Leaf, then Model 3

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    Updated!

    Also added the Top 20 average in the list.
     
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    My new entry for the list:

    131211EV ratio.jpg

    Since it is in km-liters I have calculated for you:
    Distance: 1528 km = 1012 miles.
    Combined km/l-eq: 42.75 = 100.5 MPGe
    EV km/l-eq: 62.28 = 146 MPGe

    Please update.

    One may wonder how comes I am improving my summer results so close to Christmas, the answer is that November temps were exceptionally high here (all time high since starting measuring), the fact I did not need A/C (nor heating) since mid October helped too.
     
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    markabele owner of PiP, then Leaf, then Model 3

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    MPGe should be 100.5, you entered 99.7?
     
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    markabele owner of PiP, then Leaf, then Model 3

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    When I convert I'm getting 680 EV miles, 331 HV miles, and 5 gallons of gas used (which goes up to 5.5 per our formula). That is 99.7 MPGe.
     
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    Your calculation is wrong and twisted.
    Car is reporting to a certain accuracy, distance to the km (highest integer) and consumption to the liter (highest integer), you are ignoring car report by introducing more uncertainty that does not exist!
    To your formula it should go like this:
    Gas consumption 20 liters plus 0.5 liter for uncertainty equals 20.5 liters or 5.42 gallons.
    133 kWh divided by 0.85 and 33.7 equals 4.64 gallons equivalent.
    total gallons equivalent=10.06
    1628 total km equals 1012 miles.
    MPGe=1012/10.06=100.6

    The other way to calculate (which gives same result) is per this post in the thread.
     
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    ^ I appreciate your logic, but to make things more equal I would suggest that you press the big miles/km button on dash (is it in your Prius?) and take picture of your drive ratio screen in miles mode.

    Or we let everybody take pictures in km mode to get more accurate results, but I sense endless math postings on this thread if we go that way.
     
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    Sorry, I don't have such a button, my car reports in km only.
     
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    I thought the reason we add 0.5 gallon was due to PiP displaying gallon rounded up.

    If PiP displays liter, I think we should add 0.5 liter before converting liters to gallons.
     
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    Wait, doesn't the PiP round down? So if you had used 1.9 gallons in HV mode, would it not read 1 gallon used?
     
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    retired4999 Prius driver since 2005

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    Yep! I believe you are right!
     
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    Problem is my (and European) PIP does not read in gallons but in Liters, so if i used 20.9 liters it reads 20. So the uncertainty in my case is 0.99 liters, so adding 0.5 liters to the reading before converting to gallons seems to be the right thing to do in order to (averagely) compensate for the uncertainty.
     
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    Yeah, I see both your and markabele's point. It's his thread, though - if you can convince markabele to offer non-US models a dispensation.