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Xgauge for HSI

Discussion in 'Prius c Technical Discussion' started by vincent1449p, Jul 31, 2012.

  1. vincent1449p

    vincent1449p Active Member

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    The "ECO Score" screen displays HSI in graphical form. We can use the Scangauge to display the numerical equivalent.
    Column 1
    0 [TH]XGAUGE[/TH][TH]TXD[/TH][TH]RXF[/TH][TH]RXD[/TH][TH]MTH[/TH][TH]NAM[/TH][TH]Notes[/TH]
    1 [TR][TD]HV System Indicator[/TD][TD]07C0212B[/TD][TD]02C80461052B[/TD][TD]2E0A[/TD][TD]000100010000[/TD][TD1]HSI[/TD1][TD]%[/TD][/TR]

    Hybrid System Indicator.jpg

    Area 1 - Charge area
    • Range -512% to 0%
    • My current firmware 3.17 can't be configured to display signed number, so I need to manually subtract 1024. e.g. if it displayed 1100, it should be -76%.
    Area 2 - Hybrid ECO area
    • Range 0% to 50%
    Area 3 - ECO area
    • Range 0% to 100%
    Area 4 - Power area
    • Range 100% to 511%
    Vincent
     
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    managerman Prius v Nerd

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    Cool. I will be adding this xgauge to my v and c scangauges!!!

    Thanks

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    Looks like I need to purchase a new ScanGauge. Mine is an older version that I will keep in our Vibe gt.
    Thanks for the information.
    Dan
     
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    Hi Vincent,

    Any chance this will work for a 2010 Gen III?

    Thanks,

    Dwight
     
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    There are many PIDs that are common to Liftback, v, PiP & C, it should work as well.

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    I will give it a try and let you know.

    Thanks
     
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    Vincent,

    I tried this tonight and it drew a blank. Any suggestions for the 2010 Gen III?

    Thanks,

    Dwight
     
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    Hi Vincent,

    So if I'm on regen slowing down the car and my % is -76 does that mean I am capturing 76% of the kinetic energy?
     
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    Hi Vincent,
    Any possibility that we can use this PID on Torque?
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    Nope, HSI displays the total of the HV battery and engine output as the hybrid system output and regenerative charging. It is displaying power rather than energy. During regen, the engine is either off or idle depending on speed so the -76% is showing how much power is charging the HV battery. You can multiply the voltage and current to find out the relationship between the % and kW.

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    Hi Eddie,

    It may be possible but I have not figured out how to create a formula for a 10-bit Signed Number in Torque.

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    Hi Eddie,

    I do not use Torque so could you or someone try this?
    Column 1
    0 [TH]Name[/TH][TH]ShortName[/TH][TH]ModeAndPID[/TH][TH]Equation[/TH][TH]Min Value[/TH][TH]Max Value[/TH][TH]Units[/TH][TH]Header[/TH]
    1 [TR][TD]HV System Indicator[/TD][TD1]H S I[/TD1][TD1]212B[/TD1][TD1]{A:0} * 256 + B - {A:1} * 512[/TD1][TD1]-512[/TD1][TD1]511[/TD1][TD1]%[/TD1][TD1]7C0[/TD1][/TR]
    Vincent
     
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    Hi Vincent,

    It works perfectly on my Torque.
    The HSI reading on Torque shows accordinglly as your discription for Xgauge.
    Thank you so much... :)

    Eddie
     
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    Vincent,

    I tried the Torque PID with Engine Link but did not get a response. Looking at the obddata.log file I did see the following:

    >AT SH 7C0
    OK

    >212b
    7C8 03 7F 21 12


    I also tried the SGII XGauge parameters with no response. It sounds like this was not available on the 2010 Gen 3 version.

    Dwight
     
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    Hi Eddie,

    Thanks for testing it!:) SGII use simple arithmetic so it is not as versatile as Torque which can use complex formula and multiple PIDs.

    Hi Dwight,

    7F response with subcode 12 is to indicate the ECU does not support the arguments of the requested mode or the format of the argument bytes do not match the prescribed format for the specified mode.

    I've compared the RM of both ZVW30 & NHP10, it seems HSI is a new PID in NHP10. The ZVW30 only has it in the Active test (Pg. 6577) but that is only for testing the indicator light.

    Vincent
     
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    Thanks Vincent
     
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    Hi Vincent, I entered all the data correctly but nothing shows up on my SGII?
     
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    Hi priusCpilot & Dwight,

    I found an alternative way to read HSI using passive mode or non-diagnostic mode:
    Column 1
    0 [TH]XGAUGE[/TH][TH]TXD[/TH][TH]RXF[/TH][TH]RXD[/TH][TH]MTH[/TH][TH]NAM[/TH][TH]Notes[/TH]
    1 [TR][TD]HV System Indicator[/TD][TD]024F[/TD][TD]01020247[/TD][TD]160A[/TD][TD]000100010000[/TD][TD1]hsi[/TD1][TD]%[/TD][/TR]

    I believe it should work for ZVW30 and others, even though it is not supported in diagnostic mode.

    Vincent
     
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    Thanks Vincent

    I will try it in the morning.
     
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    Vincent,

    As usual, this worked in my 2010 ZVW30. I saw the following driving to work this morning:

    Area 1 - Charge area
    • Range 1000+ to 0%
    Area 2 - Hybrid ECO area
    • Range 0% to 50%
    Area 3 - ECO area
    • Range 50% to 100%
    Area 4 - Power area
    • Range 100% to 150%
    Any thoughts as to why it works here and not in diagnostic mode?

    Thanks,

    Dwight