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Upper Oil Pan Removal

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by Cory151, Mar 7, 2015.

  1. kenoarto

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    Without "before" pictures, we'll never know what/if the original problem was when it was initially reported as just a "hairline crack". I'm quite sure, however, sure this is the first hole of this size reported here at PC.
     
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    Yeah because only salvaged Prius run over stuff and crack oil pans. :confused: How many times have you actually jacked a Prius up and layed under it to inspect the undercarriage before your purchase?

    Either way I have another salvage Prius with zero issue what so ever, it actually gets the best MPGs of the four. Once the oil pan is changed out, it will be put to the task of making me passive income just like the other 3.
     
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    I definitely would look under any used vehicle that I considered purchasing, because one thing that really bugs me is fluid leaks of any kind (other than water dripping from the AC drain.)

    Actually I believe another member posted photos of a damaged engine similar to the photo posted by Cory. The root cause was inadequate lubrication causing bearing failure and a connecting rod ended up poking through the engine.
     
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    Yeah, IIRC that was sfv41901 who posted that picture. He got a new engine from the dealer out of it under warranty.

    Here's another thread for a Gen 2 with a picture of a similar hole, in the 17th post in the thread:

    Two Holes in Engine Block | PriusChat
     
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    Pat, I said "jacked up." I drove this car for 418 miles before it left a drop of oil on the driveway.

    This is on the back of the upper oil pan impossible to see without elevating the car. Also I'd know it if I was missing a connecting rod. In fact now that I can see in there they all look pretty clean and at accounted for hahahah!!!

    Can't imagine somebody going to the trouble of rebuilding a rotating assembly and not replacing a punctured pan that cost $100 from a scrap yard.
     
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    I hear you and feel your pain.

    Good luck with the oil pan replacement, I hope you will take photos and post. It probably is necessary to remove the transaxle as another member pointed out.

    The next question is what else is missing or defective, not obvious upon casual inspection. For example, driver and passenger airbags.
     
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    Sounds like a nearly impossible area to get damaged by running over something, etc., though. :confused:
     
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    I was thinking the same thing actually, but the metal is clearly pushed in not pushed out.
     
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    Thirty or forty years ago, I might have bought used and rebuilt salvaged cars, but not in the current era of high strength steels and engineered crush zones and electronically controlled safety features.

    NOW, I will only buy NEW. Buying any USED car can be iffy, given the many calamities of floods, snowstorms and related brutal weather of late.
     
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    You do what you want with your money, the facts are that your new car is a vastly depreciating assets (a capital expenditure with zero chance of return). A new car loses 50-70% of there value in four years after it is sold. You see, I would rather allow that car to depreciate while you own it and let you work out all the recalls and warrantable maitnance issues with the stealership, while I buy in at a much lower price point.

    Im not gonna debate that your crumple zones/electronic safety gizmos aren't somehow better because they are newer as its not a point of contention since Im committed to not smashing into things regardless, of the safety features of the vehicles Im in.

    Admittedly though, (as everyone can clearly see) you may have to turn a wrench every now and then on your own, but I think that is a valuable asset for a man to have.

    Depreciation Infographic: How Fast Does My New Car Lose Value?
    Saying No To New Cars - daveramsey.com

    Anyway the new pan got here way before the cherry picker (1 day).

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    The motor is officially out.

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    Not the best practice to reuse fluid.

    If you know the inverter coolant is fairly new, lacks oil, just run it through some type of filter (say gauze or a better true filtering medium) inside a funnel, as you refill the inverter reservoir.

    Transaxle fluid (Toyota ATF-WS), hmmm. 4 new quarts should be no more than $10/quart; ouch. Did you catch the AFT-WS in a CLEAN container? Are you planning to keep the car for some time? If not a clean container but planning to keep the car, spend $40 on new ATF-WS. Consider buying a magnetic drain plug for your transaxle if keeping the car; the OEM magnetic drain plug is super weak compared to aftermarket. A few different companies make aftermarket drain plugs (ie Goldplug), and PriusChat member Rude person's might still have some left. But, can you two play nicely in the sand box for a business transaction, if Rude person's has any magnetic drain plugs left?
     
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    Speaking as a mechanic and all things considered, fresh fluids at this point might be wise. ;)
     
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    Yeah getting all new fluids tomorrow as I'm hoping to have everything all buttoned up and purged.