1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

What I don't like about the 2016 Prius

Discussion in 'Gen 4 Prius Main Forum' started by cproaudio, Sep 9, 2015.

  1. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    108,701
    49,397
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    understood. it's really more for mpg's and the related benefits.
     
  2. cproaudio

    cproaudio Speedlock Overrider

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    2,401
    759
    0
    Location:
    CA
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    V
    Volt 2 improved on acceleration performance, increased EV range, raised gas MPG and added a middle seat for that emergency 5 passenger capacity. It's a great overall improvement over the Gen 1.
    Not sure if I can say the same for the Gen 4 Prius.
     
  3. Former Member 68813

    Former Member 68813 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2010
    3,524
    981
    8
    Location:
    US
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    to be fair, the 2nd gen of prius was a great improvement over the 1st gen, too.
     
  4. john1701a

    john1701a Prius Guru

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2004
    12,754
    5,245
    57
    Location:
    Minnesota
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    The appropriate comparison is Volt gen-2 to Prius PHV gen-2.
     
    KrPtNk and bwilson4web like this.
  5. cproaudio

    cproaudio Speedlock Overrider

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    2,401
    759
    0
    Location:
    CA
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    V
    True but that was over 10 years ago. I realize that Prius has over 10 years of development over the Volt 2. However, It seems like Chevy is listening to its customers about what they want in a Gen 2 Volt. Toyota just does whatever they want and not care about what its customers want.
     
  6. john1701a

    john1701a Prius Guru

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2004
    12,754
    5,245
    57
    Location:
    Minnesota
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    Many stated the want for improved handling. Gen-4 delivers that.

    Many sales opportunities have been lost on the GM showroom floor (think about how much focus has been on conquest sales instead). Toyota continues to strive to reach those potential customers.
     
    bwilson4web likes this.
  7. cproaudio

    cproaudio Speedlock Overrider

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    2,401
    759
    0
    Location:
    CA
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    V
    Many also stated they want 4WD but that's not coming to the US. Does Toyota not know that it snows in the US? We'll see if Toyota's listening to its customers when the new plugin comes out. let's see what excuses Toyota comes up with for another plugin with short EV range.
     
  8. Sergiospl

    Sergiospl Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2011
    3,938
    1,351
    28
    Location:
    Florida
    Vehicle:
    2011 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    List of proposed Gen IV improvements by PC chatters!
    #1

    #30
     
  9. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2005
    27,373
    15,513
    0
    Location:
    Huntsville AL
    Vehicle:
    2018 Tesla Model 3
    Model:
    Prime Plus
    Look, if you think something that is possible is NOT being provided by Toyota, treat it as a business opportunity . . . it is called SEMA.

    Before there were ANY plug-in hybrids, home-brew USA engineers 'shamed' them into do the right thing. This is a business opportunity. After all, where did "American exceptionalism" go?

    Seriously, grow a pair.

    Bob Wilson
     
  10. frank168

    frank168 New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2015
    5
    0
    0
    Location:
    seatac
    Vehicle:
    2015 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    I waited months for the new Prius and have delayed replacing my worn out Corolla with 271,000 miles in high hopes this redesign would be the car I would be driving for the next 15+ years. It only took 2 minutes to evaluate this compilation of 1990s Saturn and Subaru SVX as hands down the ugliest modern car ever made. This is coming from a guy who daily drives a smoking scratched up beater with peeling clear coat and mismatched rear bumper. People frequently laugh at my current car and I laugh too and drive on. This new Prius however is not only hideous, it literally appears the designers were using drugs and broken crayons. Sorry, I just can't see myself in the new Prius with that rear end, the missing glove box, possible missing spare and rear seats that don't fold down near flat. I want the option to sleep in my car on extended road trips in the wilderness and love what only a Prius can offer - 50mpg, fold down rear seats and automatic overnight climate control without the engine running constantly. I refuse to even consider a Gen 4 and am currently far along in negotiations for a new 2015 Prius II offered at hefty discount.
     
  11. spwolf

    spwolf Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2005
    3,156
    440
    0
    Location:
    Eastern Europe
    Improving mpg from horrible to less horrible isnt that great...

    They also removed it from most World markets, so thats not great at all.
     
    Coast Cruiser likes this.
  12. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2004
    44,904
    16,128
    41
    Location:
    Canada
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Those countries that have the integrated turn signal still have that chrome piece. It's well integrated and looks nearly identical in all photos.
     
  13. spwolf

    spwolf Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2005
    3,156
    440
    0
    Location:
    Eastern Europe
    Without seeing it in person and riving it, so depending on reviews from Danny and mags, I would say this is awesome Prius.

    Here is the list of my complaints. I wont list design since I didnt see it live and plus it will make car head turner, which is desirable.

    1. Entune/Toyota Touch 2 not supporting Android Auto. While Entune hardware is much improved, too bad they did not add support for Android Auto. Yes it sucks right now, but it would be nice for future proofing.

    2. Too much windows! I would have preffered more coupe like windows, with 20" less side window space so it looks sportier. Yes, this was done on purpose, but I am complaining from my own personal view.

    3. Stock wheel options - I hope European Prius will get different wheels, like ones shown by Toyota NL on Prius (similar to IS-F wheels), or at least have them as lower cost option in configurator.

    4. Interior options in Europe - In Europe, we might get only black/black interior which I would not like. Gray real leather shown in media drives, with black/light leather contrast is what I would personally get.

    5. 2.0l engine instead of 1.8l - I wish it had more HP for the highway use.

    Looking over at above options, seems to me like I want Lexus version of Prius, however Lexus network here is poor and cars are too expensive when new, so I dont want to pay for Lexus :).


    All above being written is my own personal opinion. I like new Prius so far a lot and would buy it over anything at this price right now in Europe.
     
  14. civicdriver06

    civicdriver06 Active Member

    Joined:
    May 27, 2009
    797
    324
    0
    Location:
    Germany
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Having a back-up camera is great,but why the hell don't they hide it behind the Toyota badge ?
    It's near to useless when it has rained !
     
  15. arescec

    arescec Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2015
    238
    105
    0
    Location:
    Croatia
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Why are we even comparing Volt (Opel Ampera in Europe?) when the price difference is about 15k USD (Volt being more expensive).
    Volt uses about 25 kWh per 100km meaning that charge for 100km would cost 0.1-0.2 USD * 25 = 2.5 - 5 USD per 100km.
    With gas prices at about 1.7 USD per liter calculation is 1.7 * 4 = 6.8 USD.

    Prius battery cost: 1.8k EUR
    Ampera battery: around 9k EUR (not that for this you can get used 3rd gen from 2010!)

    And that is probably the reason why Ampera/Volt won't be available in EU in the future.
    Prius 2016 will.

    And not to mention that Chevrolet has had awful history in europe (reliability) and has gotten itself a bad word - GM is even pulling all Chevys from EU market.
     
  16. Lee Jay

    Lee Jay Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2009
    5,850
    4,023
    0
    Location:
    Westminster, Colorado
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    Huh? Are you joking or is there real information somewhere?
     
  17. sfv41901

    sfv41901 Masta S

    Joined:
    May 5, 2010
    4,591
    5,292
    0
    Location:
    Palmdale, Ca
    Vehicle:
    2015 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    I do like the IRS but the exterior styling:

    VS980 4G ?
     
  18. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    108,701
    49,397
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    it's in danny's video, the third one with the toyota product guy. as they go over the interior, he says they'll have a black stick on insert accessory to cover the white if you don't like it. of course, it'll probably be a hundred bucks.:cool:see, you've already made 'lemonade'!:cool:
     
    #138 bisco, Nov 19, 2015
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 19, 2015
    sfv41901 likes this.
  19. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    55,435
    38,653
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    One thing I gleaned from Danny's interior video, looks like the white accents are on all levels? The Toyota rep said nothing to the contrary, just what you mentioned about the stick-on accessory.
     
  20. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    108,701
    49,397
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    doesn't the new table show them on the upper 3 models only? there are too many threads here, i can't find anything quickly.