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Buying a used gen 2 for $4,000

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  1. Travis Davis

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    Hello Prius Chat,
    Newbie here with a newbie question. I am looking to buy a used Prius 04+. I have never owned a hybrid before but would definitely be interested for the gas mileage. I do most of my auto repairs myself at home, so if it needed a battery at some point it shouldn't be an issue. I test drive one the other day and I really liked it, unfortunately the one I drove had too many issues, so I didn't end up buying it. Financing is not an option, as I'm sitting at a 400 fico, with fresh CC charge offs and my main vehicle is about to be repossessed. I have $4,000 to spend and was just hoping to get some tips on what to look for in a used gen 2, common issues, etc.
    Thank you.
     
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    welcome!
    of course, battery is number one. you may spend a lot of time learning how to rebuild, and you will need some tools.
    a/c is an expensive repair if the electric compressor goes, and should be done by a professional.
    brake actuator is expensive, but diy and salvage will help reduce cost.
    you will need mini vci and old windows laptop.
    the tranny or engine may go, but if you can handle it, salvage is reasonable.
    some have great luck with hundreds of thousands of miles and few repairs, and some don't.
    all the best!(y)
     
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    Don't you want to pay towards the car that's going to be repossess? You have $4000

    There are many pitfalls to a 13 year old hybrid, maybe you should buy a newer one
     
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    File bankruptcy and learn from mistakes...
    So your life after that start with simple rule what my father use to say
    If you buy car make sure that you have 2 times more on the side...car's are luxury
    Try to learn living on 33% of your income after all normal expenses deducted
    Learn how to save
    And believe me once you do all of this you will be different man
    And have some day to become independent ....

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    Welcome fellow Seattleite! I bought a used 2005 Prius base model from my coworker 2 months ago for $3000. It had 169,990 miles. I posted a similar thread asking for opinions. Many members are super helpful in here! Be sure to ask if there are service records. If not, ask if the Prius was mainly serviced at a Toyota dealership. If they mainly got service at the dealership, you can load the service records using the VIN # on the Toyota Owner's website. My coworker did most of his servicing at the dealership so I was able to see the work that was done. I posted that info in a thread and received good recommendations and what to do next after I bought it. Considering a 2005 Prius | PriusChat My Prius is still on the original traction battery and I know that I will eventually have to replace it. See if the used one that you are looking at already had the traction battery replaced. If so, ask what kind of replacement was done (refurbished, modules replaced in original, or new Toyota battery). Not all refurbished batteries last long according to what I have read from other members on here. Modules replacement is also hit-or-miss. Some recommend to go the new Toyota traction battery route but that can be pricey depending where you buy it. I have started a traction battery replacement fund after another member recommended me to start one. You should too if you buy a used Prius with original traction battery.

    Here is the 2005 Prius Maintenance Schedule: http://www.toyota.com/t3Portal/document/omms/05ToyAllMS_MS0012/pdf/01omsour/2005/schedmai/51w1smt.pdf

    Important services to handle:
    • Every 60,000 miles it is recommended by other members here to do transaxle fluid drain and refill.
    • Per schedule at 100,000 miles: Replace engine and inverter coolant
    • Per schedule at 120,000 miles: Replace spark plugs. (I would change out PCV valve at the same time as a preventative thing)
    • Brake flush is not in the maintenance schedule but was recommended by members here. Per @Mendel Leisk: "Toyota Canada says tri-yearly or 48,000 km's (30K miles). Honda, fwiw, says tri-yearly regardless of mileage. For decades. I'd approach DIY brake fluid change with caution. I've done our 3rd gen, it is possible without Techstream, and outlined in the Repair Manual. And @NutzAboutBolts has a video on it. But 2nd gen may have some variations."
    • Throttle body cleaning would be a good preventative maintenance.
    • Mass air flow sensor cleaning would be a good preventative maintenance.
    • Per schedule every 30,000 miles: Replace cabin air filter and engine air filter.
    • Change the 12V battery if it has never been changed.
    Also higher mileage Prius are known to burn through more oil. I am not sure if I hit on most of the things but those are the things that I have done after buying my Prius. Good luck and maybe I'll see you on the road along with the millions of other Prius in Seattle. :LOL:
     
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    The biggest overall problem for Gen 2 Prius models on Car Complaints is the high intensity discharge (HID) headlights on some cars. The base headlights are fine, but the HID (upgraded) ones can randomly go out for no apparent reason, and they're expensive to replace. So I'd try to avoid a Prius with HID headlights.

    Biglew8 gave a lot of good advice for maintenance. Another good maintenance tip is replace the 12v battery every 4-5 years. A bad 12v battery can cause a lot of problems, so be sure it's not too old and has enough voltage.
     
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    biglew thinking of selling lol
     
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    Lol Nope. I am enjoying my Prius. I was looking on CL to see if there are some good Prius listed for sale.
     
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    To be perfectly honest I would look for a dependable, less complicated and lower priced used car if I were you. Find a decent Corolla/Yaris/Honda Civic and hang on to some of that money for any maintenance or repair issues that might pop up unexpectedly with your new ride.

    The Prius is great but I don't think you are in a financially stable enough position to take a chance on a well-used one.
     
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    MT GEN 1 Insights are cheaper and easier to maintain than a Prius if you disable the traction pack correctly.
    Highway FE is higher than a Gen II PRII as well

    A few are over 600,000 miles on the original motor and XMSN
     
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    I can't afford the monthly payments anymore, so that would only be a short term solution.
    Bankruptcy isn't an option, I had one a few years ago and I plan on repaying the debt once i'm finished with school anyways.
    yes it is lol
     
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    I have been looking at those also. I barely missed out on a one-owner civic the other day. had 123k miles and 1 owner for 3000
     
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    Time is the KEY.

    I searched for MONTHS before locating our '05 that had the right combination of condition, maintenance, price, defects and seller motivation. I POUNCED! One water pump and two tires since we bought it and the tires were factored into the price because they were bad.
     
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    So I ended up finding an 05 Prius, original owner, with 155k. For 4500. It does have one accident from 08, but the air bags did not deploy according to state patrol. Owner says his wife fell asleep at the wheel and side swiped the guard rail. Apparently they were at the dealer on Friday just getting an oil change done and got talked into taking a test drive on a new Prius and before they knew it they were knee-deep in negotiations and ended up leaving with a brand-new Prius. They have literally every single piece of maintenance records. Oil changes have been done between 5-6k regularly.
     
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    Congrats on the purchase! Does the records show engine and inverter coolant replaced at 100,000 miles? Spark plugs replaced at 120,000 miles? Around 150,000 miles, the engine and cabin air filters should've been replaced. Check to see if transaxle fluid was drained & refilled. Also see if the front & rear brakes were replaced. Brake flush would be good idea if it hasn't been done yet. As a preventative maintainence, replace the PCV valve too. Best time to get that done would be when the spark plugs get replaced (if it hasn't been done yet). Has the 12v auxiliary battery been replaced? Still on original traction battery? New tires?
     
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    Oops, double post.
     
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    Yes, at 100k they replaced engine & inverter coolant. Spark plugs & pcv were done at 125k. Unfortunately trans fluid has not been replaced, however Toyota inspected it at 120k and supposedly it was still god at that time. Cabin air filter was replaced at 144k. Engine air filter is looking a little dirty, so ill replace that. Apparently Toyota told the owners that they did not need to flush the transmission fluid, so that's pretty much the only major thing that probably needs attention soon. I should be good to just go ahead and do it at home without risk of damage to the tranny right?

    The service from 4/7/17, so just a few days ago, indicates front brake lining at 8mm, rears at 3mm. Not sure what that translates to in terms of wear.

    Traction battery is the original. Im hoping I can make it to 200k before it need replacing. Aux battery was replaced in 2013.
     
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    all the best!(y)